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Hi
Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be preordered.
Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
Kecia Hansen
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Here are direct links:
Sante Fe Cars Set I
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10025
Sante Fe Cars Set II
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10022
Now I'm a little confused. I'm looking at the Fallen Flags site for
reference:
http://www.midwestnpioneer.org/timetable/fallenflags/superchief.html
The descriptions at shop.lego.com don't seem to match the cars correctly.
For example, 10022 SF Cars II makes three cars (and has the clear macaroni
bricks!). Lego.com describes them as sleeping, mail & baggage. But comparing
them to the Fallen Flags site, these cars look like observation, dining and
sleeping.
10025 SF Cars I is described by Lego.com as dining and observation. Again
comparing them with Fallen Flags, they look like baggage and mail to me.
And the online descriptions don't match the descriptions from the new
catalog either -
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=212603
Are the descriptions wrong on Lego.com or am I missing something? My
knowledge of real railroad machinery and terms is zero, so I might be
totally off base.
(When does the new train catalog get published?)
Bryan
"Kecia Hansen" <kch@adslhome.dk> wrote in message
news:H05upA.19M@lugnet.com...
> Hi
>
> Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be • preordered.
> Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
> and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
>
> Kecia Hansen
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In lugnet.trains, Bryan Kinkel writes:
> Here are direct links:
>
> Sante Fe Cars Set I
> http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10025
>
> Sante Fe Cars Set II
> http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10022
>
> Now I'm a little confused. I'm looking at the Fallen Flags site for
> reference:
> http://www.midwestnpioneer.org/timetable/fallenflags/superchief.html
>
> The descriptions at shop.lego.com don't seem to match the cars correctly.
>
> For example, 10022 SF Cars II makes three cars (and has the clear macaroni
> bricks!). Lego.com describes them as sleeping, mail & baggage. But comparing
> them to the Fallen Flags site, these cars look like observation, dining and
> sleeping.
>
> 10025 SF Cars I is described by Lego.com as dining and observation. Again
> comparing them with Fallen Flags, they look like baggage and mail to me.
>
> And the online descriptions don't match the descriptions from the new
> catalog either -
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=212603
>
> Are the descriptions wrong on Lego.com or am I missing something? My
> knowledge of real railroad machinery and terms is zero, so I might be
> totally off base.
>
> (When does the new train catalog get published?)
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
> "Kecia Hansen" <kch@adslhome.dk> wrote in message
> news:H05upA.19M@lugnet.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be • preordered.
> > Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
> > and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
> >
> > Kecia Hansen
Well I think something is definitely wrong. Whether it is the website or the
catalog, I don't know, since I don't know much about trains either. I get
the pictures on the website as follows (compared to catalog):
10022 Observation/mail/sleeping car
10025 Dining/bagage car
But perhaps someone knows better?
Kecia
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> Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be preordered.
> Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
> and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
I ordered mine! James, will you sign the building-instructions ;-) ?
Jeroen.
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In lugnet.trains, Jeroen de Haan writes:
> > Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be preordered.
> > Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
> > and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
>
> I ordered mine! James, will you sign the building-instructions ;-) ?
>
> Jeroen.
I have ordered mine too. 3 10022 and 2 10025. Can't wait to get my hands on
them!
Kecia
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In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
> Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be preordered.
> Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
> and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
"Sorry, item is not available in this country." Lovely ;-(
-alex
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In lugnet.trains, Alex Cruz writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
>
> > Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be preordered.
> > Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
> > and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
>
> "Sorry, item is not available in this country." Lovely ;-(
>
> -alex
Hi
It seems, they have been taken off the website again. Perhaps bacause of
incorrect description???.
See http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=17033
Kecia
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In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
> It seems, they have been taken off the website again. Perhaps bacause of
> incorrect description???.
The descriptions of the Santa Fe Cars have just been improved, and also
the've been moved from the incorrect map "Trains > Locomotive" to "Trains >
Rail cars". But the "Rail Cars" overview page hasn't been updated yet, so
for the moment you won't be able to find the cars navigating through the menu's.
However, the improved item pages of the cars do show up if you enter their
set number 10025 or 10022 in the "ITEM NUMBER SEARCH" box at the botom of
the yellow menu (lower-left corner)
With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.
[XP to lugnet.loc.eu]
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In lugnet.trains, Manfred Moolhuysen writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
> > It seems, they have been taken off the website again. Perhaps bacause of
> > incorrect description???.
>
> The descriptions of the Santa Fe Cars have just been improved, and also
> the've been moved from the incorrect map "Trains > Locomotive" to "Trains >
> Rail cars". But the "Rail Cars" overview page hasn't been updated yet, so
> for the moment you won't be able to find the cars navigating through the
menu's.
Thats the beaty with this lovely technology
Dan
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In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
>
> It seems, they have been taken off the website again. Perhaps bacause of
> incorrect description???.
>
> See http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=17033
Yikes! We actually made a mistake when we initially posted the cars. We are
working on a fix and the cars should be live again shortly, if they aren't
already!
Jake
---
Jake McKee
Sr. Producer
LEGO Direct
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They are back. Just ordered 3 and 2 of 10025 and 10022
Paul Sinasohn
LUGNET #115
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In lugnet.trains, Paul Sinasohn writes:
> They are back. Just ordered 3 and 2 of 10025 and 10022
>
> Paul Sinasohn
> LUGNET #115
Umm, didn't you mean to order 3 of 10022, and 2 of 10025? (Maybe that's just
what you did, though.)
Cary
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In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
> >
> > It seems, they have been taken off the website again. Perhaps bacause of
> > incorrect description???.
> >
> > See http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=17033
>
> Yikes! We actually made a mistake when we initially posted the cars. We are
> working on a fix and the cars should be live again shortly, if they aren't
> already!
>
> Jake
>
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Sr. Producer
> LEGO Direct
Shops seems to be fully updated now!!!! :)
Kecia
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In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
> >
> > It seems, they have been taken off the website again. Perhaps bacause of
> > incorrect description???.
> >
> > See http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=17033
>
> Yikes! We actually made a mistake when we initially posted the cars. We are
> working on a fix and the cars should be live again shortly, if they aren't
> already!
Anyone else notice nothing happens when you click on the zoom-in icon?
ROSCO
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In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
> >
> > It seems, they have been taken off the website again. Perhaps bacause of
> > incorrect description???.
> >
> > See http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=17033
>
> Yikes! We actually made a mistake when we initially posted the cars. We are
> working on a fix and the cars should be live again shortly, if they aren't
> already!
>
> Jake
Hello Jake,
I just wanted to ask about pricing of the Santa Fe coaches:
I have heard about a 5-waggons-kit for a discount price of 148$. Is that true
and what is the number to order?
For Germany that kit has already been announced for 179 Eur (obviously the
price we pay for the absence of Mega-Bloks in Europe, since 1Eur = 1$)
But there is no number for the kit available in the German part of S@H also.
If I now pre-order my five cars: will they cost me the 200 bucks or do I get
the discount price of 179 Eur? (Same for US-Folks: will the first buyers now
have to pay 5x35$=175$ instead of 148$ when the discount will have been
announced?)
Kind Regards,
Ben
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"Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> wrote in message
news:H07GEu.1sp@lugnet.com...
>
> I just wanted to ask about pricing of the Santa Fe coaches:
>
> I have heard about a 5-waggons-kit for a discount price of 148$. Is that • true
> and what is the number to order?
>
> For Germany that kit has already been announced for 179 Eur (obviously the
> price we pay for the absence of Mega-Bloks in Europe, since 1Eur = 1$)
>
> But there is no number for the kit available in the German part of S@H • also.
> If I now pre-order my five cars: will they cost me the 200 bucks or do I • get
> the discount price of 179 Eur? (Same for US-Folks: will the first buyers • now
> have to pay 5x35$=175$ instead of 148$ when the discount will have been
> announced?)
To be fair, remember that EU prices will include VAT.
Whereas there is no sales tax added to mail order products in the US, other
than in the state they are shipped from (or something to that effect)
As such, if you add VAT to the US price it comes out around the same
Lawrence
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In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
>
> "Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> wrote in message
> news:H07GEu.1sp@lugnet.com...
> >
> > I just wanted to ask about pricing of the Santa Fe coaches:
> >
> > I have heard about a 5-waggons-kit for a discount price of 148$. Is that • true
> > and what is the number to order?
> >
> > For Germany that kit has already been announced for 179 Eur (obviously the
> > price we pay for the absence of Mega-Bloks in Europe, since 1Eur = 1$)
> >
> > But there is no number for the kit available in the German part of S@H • also.
> > If I now pre-order my five cars: will they cost me the 200 bucks or do I • get
> > the discount price of 179 Eur? (Same for US-Folks: will the first buyers • now
> > have to pay 5x35$=175$ instead of 148$ when the discount will have been
> > announced?)
>
> To be fair, remember that EU prices will include VAT.
> Whereas there is no sales tax added to mail order products in the US, other
> than in the state they are shipped from (or something to that effect)
>
> As such, if you add VAT to the US price it comes out around the same
>
> Lawrence
Hi Lawrence,
of course you are right. But still there is the difference between the Santa
Fe (40$ in the US and 40 Eur in Germany) and the coaches (35$ but 40 Eur). The
engine has more parts and a probably somewhat better part collection. In my
eyes the coaches are too expensive in relation to the engine.
And second thing I do not understand:
5 coaches in the US are (if 'rumors' are true) 148 against 175$ =>18% discount
5 coaches in Germany will be 179 Eur against 200 Eur =>18% discount => 12%
discount.
In general Germany has often had quite reasonable prices (especially in
comparison to the UK), so I will not claim any more about too high costs for
these sets. But a complete Santa Fe is not a cheap hobby. For A-B-A units you
need 4 Sets 10020 = 160 Eur
Then 5 sets of waggons = 179 Eur
2 further waggon sets for moc waggons (you need 'normal' passenger cars, dont
you?) = 80 Eur
2 motors = 70 Eur
2 light set = 18 (?)Eur
Sum: 507 Eur for 1 train! That is for sure an AFOLs train only.
Kind Regards,
Ben
(P.s.: I would definitely never buy Mega Bloks, but I would like to have them
in the shops as an argument against the Lego prices...)
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> And second thing I do not understand:
>
> 5 coaches in the US are (if 'rumors' are true) 148 against 175$ =>18% discount
>
> 5 coaches in Germany will be 179 Eur against 200 Eur =>18% discount => 12%
> discount.
>
> In general Germany has often had quite reasonable prices (especially in
> comparison to the UK), so I will not claim any more about too high costs for
> these sets. But a complete Santa Fe is not a cheap hobby. For A-B-A units you
> need 4 Sets 10020 = 160 Eur
> Then 5 sets of waggons = 179 Eur
> 2 further waggon sets for moc waggons (you need 'normal' passenger cars, dont
> you?) = 80 Eur
> 2 motors = 70 Eur
> 2 light set = 18 (?)Eur
>
> Sum: 507 Eur for 1 train! That is for sure an AFOLs train only.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ben
What I want to know is why do both the "kits" cost the same but one has almost
100 more pieces?
Dan
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Jake McKee writes:
> > In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
Hallo Ben,
<snip>
> I just wanted to ask about pricing of the Santa Fe coaches:
>
> I have heard about a 5-waggons-kit for a discount price of 148$. Is that true
> and what is the number to order?
>
> For Germany that kit has already been announced for 179 Eur (obviously the
> price we pay for the absence of Mega-Bloks in Europe, since 1Eur = 1$)
Perhaps there are little or no MEGA BLOKS in Germany, but we do have them in
Belgium. And they are cheaper than Lego too! But to be honest, i don't like
them that much, even i own some, just for a check if they fit good as well
as mechanical as in color. But this differs too. So, no more MEGA BLOKS for
me, but my kids are asking some of there models (PRO BUILDER serie).
<snip>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ben
Regards,
Ludo
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> I have heard about a 5-waggons-kit for a discount price of 148$.
I was hoping there would be a Christmas special of the Santa Fe loco + motor
+ two of the passenger Santa Fe cars + one Santa Fe baggage car.
Where did you hear about the 5 car offer ?
Regards,
David
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In lugnet.trains, David Graham writes:
> > I have heard about a 5-waggons-kit for a discount price of 148$.
>
> I was hoping there would be a Christmas special of the Santa Fe loco + motor
> + two of the passenger Santa Fe cars + one Santa Fe baggage car.
>
> Where did you hear about the 5 car offer ?
>
> Regards,
>
> David
It's in the Train Catalog. I've seen it. 5 for $148 or 2 for $65.
Paul SInasohn
LUGNET #115
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In lugnet.trains, Kecia Hansen writes:
> Hi
>
> Just visited the Lego website. The new Santa Fe cars can now be preordered.
> Seems like they will be available in Europe before the US. In Denmark, 20
> and 31 august. In the US, 6 september and 8 october. whoohoo.
>
> Kecia Hansen
Just noticed that shipment date for 10022 has been changed for Europe. It is
now 13 september, rather than 31 august.
kecia
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