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Re: 10020 at brickswest and what the Sr. VP of lego direct said
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Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:59:13 GMT
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Ahui Herrera wrote in message ...
2) Train engines 1 - 5 will be auctioned off on eBay.com by LEGO in the
future.  This is something new they want to start and will do several items
(train and non-trains) and see how it goes.

Well, they'd better hurry it up. Santa Fe engines are already appearing on
eBay.

Kevin
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Re: 10020 at brickswest and what the Sr. VP of lego direct said
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Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:55:29 GMT
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There is enough engines for everyone to get 1 or 2.  Besides the VP said
"It's a series of 10,000.  We run out of the numbered ones at 10,000."  He
laters says that if they need more they will make more (most likely without
the number).

Also on the ebay site.  That person doesn't even know what number the engine
in the box is.  It's not 1,2,3,4,5 or A8841.  Also I don't know if a
certifiate comes with the engine.  I did not pick that bit up at brickswest.
So it's STUPID to get the engine on ebay if you don't know the number!
-AHui

In lugnet.trains, Kevin Wilson writes:
Ahui Herrera wrote in message ...
2) Train engines 1 - 5 will be auctioned off on eBay.com by LEGO in the
future.  This is something new they want to start and will do several items
(train and non-trains) and see how it goes.

Well, they'd better hurry it up. Santa Fe engines are already appearing on
eBay.

Kevin
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Subject: 
10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:31:43 GMT
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I am debating the urgency of buying a couple of these right away. I definitely
want a pair, but economic circumstances are not as good as I'd like right now.
(Are they ever?)

Ahui Herrera wrote:
There is enough engines for everyone to get 1 or 2.  Besides the VP said
"It's a series of 10,000.  We run out of the numbered ones at 10,000."  He
laters says that if they need more they will make more (most likely without
the number).

But in an earlier post he wrote:
A word about the new train engine.
There will be 10,000 made ONLY. Each engine will come with it's own number
1x2 title (beginning with 1,2... 10,000).

My emphasis on "only."

Can anyone shed some light on which is accurate. If the former, then I will
tighten my belt (crackers and water at work for a while), if the latter, then I
can afford to wait a little.

Thanks in advance for any additional information.

Henry

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:12:27 GMT
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I just finsihed the transcitps the of Q&A with Brad Justin at Brickswest.
On the question of 10,000.  This is what he said.

Question 39: How limied (on train engine) is limited?

Answer: "It's a seriesm of 10,000.  We run out of the numbered ones at
10,000 and then will we see how it goes."


***************
From my understand of this I'm taking it that if the demand for engines
after the first 10,000 is still high they might make more but these next
'batch' MAY NOT be numbered!  Anyone else at brickswest want to comment on
this. -AHui


ps.
Proof-reading transcipt and getting final approval from brickswest commiitte
before posting.

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Date: 
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:37:55 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera writes:
I just finsihed the transcitps the of Q&A with Brad Justin at Brickswest.
On the question of 10,000.  This is what he said.

Question 39: How limied (on train engine) is limited?

Answer: "It's a seriesm of 10,000.  We run out of the numbered ones at
10,000 and then will we see how it goes."


***************
From my understand of this I'm taking it that if the demand for engines
after the first 10,000 is still high they might make more but these next
'batch' MAY NOT be numbered!  Anyone else at brickswest want to comment on
this. -AHui

That is how I also heard it. My interpretation was that *IF* any more were
produced, they would not be numbered (this was not implied one way or
another, just my interpretation\opinion.)

-Mark (#2)

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Date: 
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:01:58 GMT
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Mark Rideout wrote:

In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera writes:
I just finsihed the transcitps the of Q&A with Brad Justin at Brickswest.
On the question of 10,000.  This is what he said.

Question 39: How limied (on train engine) is limited?

Answer: "It's a seriesm of 10,000.  We run out of the numbered ones at
10,000 and then will we see how it goes."


***************
From my understand of this I'm taking it that if the demand for engines
after the first 10,000 is still high they might make more but these next
'batch' MAY NOT be numbered!  Anyone else at brickswest want to comment on
this. -AHui

That is how I also heard it. My interpretation was that *IF* any more were
produced, they would not be numbered (this was not implied one way or
another, just my interpretation\opinion.)

I understood it as Mark did.  Personally, after 10,000, I rather see a
*different* engine run of 10,000 and have the Super Chief go out of production
for a while (based on the fact that LD can only have so many different sets in
production at any given time)

-John(#2)  ;-)



-Mark (#2)

    
          
      
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Date: 
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 04:04:09 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:


Mark Rideout wrote:

In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera writes:
I just finsihed the transcitps the of Q&A with Brad Justin at Brickswest.
On the question of 10,000.  This is what he said.

Question 39: How limied (on train engine) is limited?

Answer: "It's a seriesm of 10,000.  We run out of the numbered ones at
10,000 and then will we see how it goes."


***************
From my understand of this I'm taking it that if the demand for engines
after the first 10,000 is still high they might make more but these next
'batch' MAY NOT be numbered!  Anyone else at brickswest want to comment on
this. -AHui

That is how I also heard it. My interpretation was that *IF* any more were
produced, they would not be numbered (this was not implied one way or
another, just my interpretation\opinion.)

I understood it as Mark did.  Personally, after 10,000, I rather see a
*different* engine run of 10,000 and have the Super Chief go out of production
for a while

The sooner a LEGO Direct item becomes unavailable, the sooner that item
begins to show up on eBay at inflated prices.  Isn't that one of the things
LEGO Direct was supposed to help stop?

I am personally against any sort of 'Limited Edition' products.  They only
reward people with immediate buying power and don't always end up with true
fans.  I believe in the long run the company would do well to keep this
terrific set in production as long as possible.  It is a good ambassador for
their products and their image.

I'm not a train fan in the least, but I'll be buying one of these sets for
my desk at work.

(based on the fact that LD can only have so many different sets in
production at any given time)

If the sales for this division continue to be strong, I suspect this
artificial limit of how many sets they can release could be raised or
eliminated.

Regards,
Allan B.

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Date: 
Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:54:25 GMT
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i agree with this sentiment. in my mind limited edition in the case of the
super chief is a short production run of 10,000 and NO MORE. what's the
point of having a LIMITED EDITION if only a second run is going to be made
with the only difference being a numbered tile?!?!

In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:


Mark Rideout wrote:

In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera writes:
I just finsihed the transcitps the of Q&A with Brad Justin at Brickswest.
On the question of 10,000.  This is what he said.

Question 39: How limied (on train engine) is limited?

Answer: "It's a seriesm of 10,000.  We run out of the numbered ones at
10,000 and then will we see how it goes."


***************
From my understand of this I'm taking it that if the demand for engines
after the first 10,000 is still high they might make more but these next
'batch' MAY NOT be numbered!  Anyone else at brickswest want to comment on
this. -AHui

That is how I also heard it. My interpretation was that *IF* any more were
produced, they would not be numbered (this was not implied one way or
another, just my interpretation\opinion.)

I understood it as Mark did.  Personally, after 10,000, I rather see a
*different* engine run of 10,000 and have the Super Chief go out of production
for a while (based on the fact that LD can only have so many different sets in
production at any given time)

-John(#2)  ;-)



-Mark (#2)

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Date: 
Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:08:55 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
I understood it as Mark did.  Personally, after 10,000, I rather see a
*different* engine run of 10,000 and have the Super Chief go out of
production for a while (based on the fact that LD can only have so many
different sets in production at any given time)

In lugnet.trains, Ace Kim writes:
i agree with this sentiment. in my mind limited edition in the case of the
super chief is a short production run of 10,000 and NO MORE. what's the
point of having a LIMITED EDITION if only a second run is going to be made
with the only difference being a numbered tile?!?!

Personally, I don't think 10000 is all that limited.  I mean, even after
Larry's placed his order[1] there'll still be plenty to go around.  What
production run would you expect of a set like this?

I'm not a huge fan of forced 'collectibility', but clearly I've fallen hook,
line, sinker, rod and copy of 'Angling Times' for this one.  I'd rather Lego
Direct just kept producing fantastic sets at great prices.  I can put up
with the marketing machinery for a while, but this could get tiresome if
they come to rely on limited editions - particularly if a more limited run
is ever used as an excuse to hike the price up.

Still, let's have a decent British steam locomotive next, eh?


Jason J Railton

[1] :)[2]

[2] ;)

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:20:34 GMT
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Jason J Railton wrote:


Still, let's have a decent British steam locomotive next, eh?

Heck yeah, a whole line of them (read: Thomas)

-John



Jason J Railton


    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:


Jason J Railton wrote:


Still, let's have a decent British steam locomotive next, eh?

Heck yeah, a whole line of them (read: Thomas)

He said "Decent" not "Cute"... every club should have a Thomas(tm) but that
doesn't mean I want LEGO(r) to dump effort into licensing it.

Na, give us an A4 Mallard(1) (think of the compound curved pieces for that
one!!!)

1 - check me on that, I think that's what it is. Big, Blue, Streamlined,
Fast, Between the Wars period...

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ...
Na, give us an A4 Mallard(1) (think of the compound curved pieces for that
one!!!)

1 - check me on that, I think that's what it is. Big, Blue, Streamlined,
Fast, Between the Wars period...

Yep, you got it. Class is A4, a Pacific (4-6-2) wheel arrangement, Mallard
was the engine which took the world steam speed record of 126 mph in in 1938
IIRC. Designed by Sir Nigel Gresley for the LNER.

Here she is:
http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/mainline/index.asp?i=4
(running)
http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/nrm/index.asp?i=53
(Now in rail museum)

And more info
http://www.o-keating.com/hsr/mallard.htm
http://www.wandleys.demon.co.uk/mallard.htm

Kevin
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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In lugnet.trains, Kevin Wilson writes:
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ...
Na, give us an A4 Mallard(1) (think of the compound curved pieces for that
one!!!)

1 - check me on that, I think that's what it is. Big, Blue, Streamlined,
Fast, Between the Wars period...

Yep, you got it. Class is A4, a Pacific (4-6-2) wheel arrangement, Mallard
was the engine which took the world steam speed record of 126 mph in in 1938
IIRC. Designed by Sir Nigel Gresley for the LNER.

Here she is:
http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/mainline/index.asp?i=4
(running)
http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/nrm/index.asp?i=53
(Now in rail museum)

And more info
http://www.o-keating.com/hsr/mallard.htm
http://www.wandleys.demon.co.uk/mallard.htm

Kevin
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Thanks for confirming my memory. Now for the real test: Someone built a
LEGO(r) model of it some time back? For 50 points, who can give the URL(s)
to the builder's pics???

    
          
     
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Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
Na, give us an A4 Mallard(1) (think of the compound curved pieces for that
one!!!)
...

In lugnet.trains, Kevin Wilson writes:
Yep, you got it. Class is A4, a Pacific (4-6-2) wheel arrangement, Mallard
was the engine which took the world steam speed record of 126 mph in in 1938
IIRC. Designed by Sir Nigel Gresley for the LNER.

Here she is:
http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/mainline/index.asp?i=4
(running)
http://www.freefoto.com/pictures/transport_rail_steam/nrm/index.asp?i=53
(Now in rail museum)

And more info
http://www.o-keating.com/hsr/mallard.htm
http://www.wandleys.demon.co.uk/mallard.htm

In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
Thanks for confirming my memory. Now for the real test: Someone built a
LEGO(r) model of it some time back? For 50 points, who can give the URL(s)
to the builder's pics???

[Slowly raises hand] It was a long time ago, okay?  Over a year and a half.
I didn't have any track or 9V wheels either:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.j.railton/mallard/index.html

And Larry knows this because he was there.  Look on the link to Huw's
photos.  All the effort went into the walking AT-AT at the time (see my
Space section).

But yes, I'd love to see Lego Direct do a nice big version of this.  They
could leave the fairings off if they wanted to - many of these ran from
day-to-day without them.  But, big train wheels, lots of curves.  It would
be great.


Jason J Railton

   
         
   
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Re: 10020 at brickswest and what the Sr. VP of lego direct said
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In lugnet.trains, Kevin Wilson writes:
Ahui Herrera wrote in message ...
2) Train engines 1 - 5 will be auctioned off on eBay.com by LEGO in the
future.  This is something new they want to start and will do several items
(train and non-trains) and see how it goes.

Well, they'd better hurry it up. Santa Fe engines are already appearing on
eBay.


I only see one listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1707133089

A pathetic listing, and no picture?

-Rob.

   
         
   
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Re: 10020 at brickswest and what the Sr. VP of lego direct said
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In lugnet.trains, Rob Doucette writes:
In lugnet.trains, Kevin Wilson writes:
Ahui Herrera wrote in message ...
2) Train engines 1 - 5 will be auctioned off on eBay.com by LEGO in the
future.  This is something new they want to start and will do several items
(train and non-trains) and see how it goes.

Well, they'd better hurry it up. Santa Fe engines are already appearing on
eBay.


I only see one listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1707133089

They might've taken a punt, and listed before receiving the goods. They
could've at least grabbed a pic from the LEGO site, though.

ROSCO

 

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