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"Ahui Herrera" <jedi_agh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GrrICE.HoK@lugnet.com...
> According to the VP 8-wide is NOT a high priority item to them right now.
> More on this later this week once I have the transcipt of the Q&A sesison
done.
Not to start another 6 vs. 8 wide debate, but I hope Lego Direct
concentrates on the continued revival of the six wide, 9 volt train line and
expanding the bulk parts line parts instead of producing 8 wide trains. I
would much rather pay for a new and improved track system (automated
points!) instead of 8 wide rolling stock...
Here is a question for the Bricksmiths and others experienced in selling
custom sets... How much would the Sante Fe cost if it were produced at 8
studs across? It would obviously require more bricks. +10%? +20%?
Bryan
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In lugnet.trains, Bryan Kinkel writes:
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> "Ahui Herrera" <jedi_agh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:GrrICE.HoK@lugnet.com...
> > According to the VP 8-wide is NOT a high priority item to them right now.
> > More on this later this week once I have the transcipt of the Q&A sesison
> done.
>
> Not to start another 6 vs. 8 wide debate, but I hope Lego Direct
> concentrates on the continued revival of the six wide, 9 volt train line and
> expanding the bulk parts line parts instead of producing 8 wide trains. I
> would much rather pay for a new and improved track system (automated
> points!) instead of 8 wide rolling stock...
>
> Here is a question for the Bricksmiths and others experienced in selling
> custom sets... How much would the Sante Fe cost if it were produced at 8
> studs across? It would obviously require more bricks. +10%? +20%?
I feel that it's not just width, you have to increase length a fair bit and
height a small bit when you go to 8 wide, so I would argue that the brick
increase is anywhere from 30% to 100%, tending toward the higher of that range.
J2 disagrees, he thinks it's less... that highlights that it's really a
matter of opinion as I don't think anyone has done a real crisp study of two
models that everyone agrees are "the same".
But I would doubt that anyone would think it's only 10% more bricks... (even
accounting for the fact that things are hollow.)
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Bryan Kinkel writes:
> >
> > "Ahui Herrera" <jedi_agh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:GrrICE.HoK@lugnet.com...
> > > According to the VP 8-wide is NOT a high priority item to them right now.
> > > More on this later this week once I have the transcipt of the Q&A sesison
> > done.
> >
> > Not to start another 6 vs. 8 wide debate, but I hope Lego Direct
> > concentrates on the continued revival of the six wide, 9 volt train line and
> > expanding the bulk parts line parts instead of producing 8 wide trains. I
> > would much rather pay for a new and improved track system (automated
> > points!) instead of 8 wide rolling stock...
> >
> > Here is a question for the Bricksmiths and others experienced in selling
> > custom sets... How much would the Sante Fe cost if it were produced at 8
> > studs across? It would obviously require more bricks. +10%? +20%?
>
> I feel that it's not just width, you have to increase length a fair bit and
> height a small bit when you go to 8 wide, so I would argue that the brick
> increase is anywhere from 30% to 100%, tending toward the higher of that range.
>
> J2 disagrees, he thinks it's less... that highlights that it's really a
> matter of opinion as I don't think anyone has done a real crisp study of two
> models that everyone agrees are "the same".
>
> But I would doubt that anyone would think it's only 10% more bricks... (even
> accounting for the fact that things are hollow.)
Sounds like a good project for someone. J2, how about an 8-wide version of
the new Super Chief? Are you up to the challenge?
Compare well,
Andreas Stabno
http://www.lugnet.com/~19/
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Bryan Kinkel wrote:
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> would much rather pay for a new and improved track system (automated
> points!) instead of 8 wide rolling stock...
Don't forget that automated points probably won't come cheap. In olden (12v)
days, a single automated point cost as much as two manual ones. Will there be a
market for a single $30 automated point? A layout gets pricey quick!
Rick Clark
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In lugnet.trains, Rick Clark writes:
> Bryan Kinkel wrote:
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> <snip>
>
> > would much rather pay for a new and improved track system (automated
> > points!) instead of 8 wide rolling stock...
>
>
> Don't forget that automated points probably won't come cheap. In olden (12v)
> days, a single automated point cost as much as two manual ones. Will there be a
> market for a single $30 automated point? A layout gets pricey quick!
>
> Rick Clark
I'd be willing to pay for that (and my layout has 14 points!). Besides all
Lego really has to invest in to get a DCC solution started is DCC compatible
engine motors and points. I think everything else would be able to be
bought off the shelf. A DCC relay switch to control power to other Lego
motors would be nice though.
Steve Martin
IndyLUG
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Keep dreaming about DDC... LEGO is NOT going to do that anytime soon.
Directs prioroty it is show more people that LEGO makes trains. From the
expression on his (Brad) face the idea of investing in creating new molds
and looking at DDC is not going to happen. Not that LEGO may or may not
want to do it but direct has only been aorund 2 years and while it is
sucessufl you need to remembert that they are the babies of the 12 sections
of lego. So they need to prove to the other 11 that look trains is going
real real good now it's time we invest in it. Direct is NOt at that point
yet and can't get there without us prompting the lego trains and train shows
like so many of you have.
What I think you help out is having an internet connection at the trainshops
next to the lego layouts so tat we kids and parnets ask where can I buy
them. BAB! They use the internet right next to the layout and it's a done
deal. hum.... Something to ask lego about?
-AHui
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In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera writes:
> Keep dreaming about DDC... LEGO is NOT going to do that anytime soon.
Sad, but i'm working on a kit to do so.
If you still see Mr.Brad Justus, can you ask him when we will get our bulk
discount in Europe too?
I mailed Shop At Home Europe, and they replied with the message that there
aren't plans to do it. I, and some others are waiting for it before placing
a new order!
The Super Chief looks very nice. Well done from Lego.
Regards,
Ludo
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Price point taken, yes, they would be expensive in the individual packs like
7858 & 7859. Speaking as a former 12V user, there was that nice little
add-on called 7863. When I bought my system in 1985 (great year for
American Dollar) in Europe, I bought a pair of the 2 pack manual switches,
7856, and later ordered 7863's from Magasin Du Nord (you think Pitsco/Dacta
is pricey!).
TLG could do the same w/ a 9V version, just offer an accessory pack for
those who want it. (Except it would be in North America market too!)
--
Adrian Egli
http://www.scltc.org
"Rick Clark" <jrclark@nospam.aol.com> wrote in message
news:GruJCw.7J0@lugnet.com...
> Bryan Kinkel wrote:
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> <snip>
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> > would much rather pay for a new and improved track system (automated
> > points!) instead of 8 wide rolling stock...
>
>
> Don't forget that automated points probably won't come cheap. In olden • (12v)
> days, a single automated point cost as much as two manual ones. Will there • be a
> market for a single $30 automated point? A layout gets pricey quick!
>
> Rick Clark
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