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    Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Because you know all the idioms. To draw an analogy, I can code in C++ or Java a lot faster than I can in Lisp, because I know more idioms and patterns. That doesn't (in and of itself) make C++ *better* than Lisp, just different. You need a (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Jennifer Clark
     (...) Yup, that certainly is a large part of it, and I don't think there is any point in my life where my skill (or lack thereof) at the two systems was equal therefore allowing a valid comparison. I think there is something else though, a mindset, (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Steve Lane
     (...) Death traps? Ever had your wiring checked? :-) only joking. I once saw a Sabre jet crafted in Meccano. It was very well done, especially hard as it's not cylindrical along it's lenght, but tapers toward the tail. Must have required some neat (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Simon Bennett
     (...) Hi Larry. Correct me if I misunderstand but you appear to be saying that the Lego idioms are quicker to learn than for the other construction toys. We also appear to agree that the writers perception is wrong. Do you support me attempting to (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Yes, very much so! I think it would be a great idea to do so! What I am trying to say is that if you understand why the writer has the perception he does, and counteract it, I think your letter will be much more powerful. I think I see why he (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Simon Bennett
     (...) Very much so, except my home PC is useless and I'm not allowed to download files at work so I can't get the document (plus I've never done an FTP before and I don't really understand it (I'm a Civil Engineer not an IT specialist, dammit!) I'll (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Simon Bennett
     Okay. Now I know how FTP works (i.e seamlessly, it wasn't like that in 1994 when I was at University!) As Gael says that is a cool article, just one question. Did the Constructopedia ever go online? I have never seen any reference to it on Lugnet. (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)  
    
         Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) It hits the salient points. As you say it may need a bit of shortening. But overall, it's brill. (Even though it doesn't even mention the vast civil engineering possibilities afforded by use of the Train parts. (1)) 1 - that last bit was a (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Thomas (T. J.) Avery
      (...) Large steel structures (i.e. buildings and bridges) are welded and BOLTED together. Rivets are rarely used anymore in these structures. (...) Friction pins are an excellent connector because they are easy and convenient to use, but they lack (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Simon Bennett
      (...) Noted. You're absolutely right. It's been a while since my degree and I'm a railway engineer now, sorry about that slip up. I must go back and review my notes on egg-sucking too!! (...) So should I leave the part about Lego being no worse for (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Thomas (T. J.) Avery
       (...) I think for ease of use, Lego parts (like a Technic beam) are certainly better. You'd still have to build-up a Technic beam to get an "I" or box section, but the Technic beam by itself is relatively strong and as you say, is "a decent member". (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Simon Bennett
       (...) (URL) an admittedly a short search this is the best I've found. L girders are present in very long lengths and they do make pawls! but I don't think there are any small bevel gears. What do you think are the biggest omissions and which (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Johannes Keukelaar
       "SB" == Simon Bennett <simon.bennett@ntlworld.com> writes: SB> LMAO about this... (URL) !!! SB> A bit of a surf starting here may yield a bit of information but SB> there's clearly less web support for Meccano than for Lego. (URL) does seem to work. (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Anders Isaksson
      "Simon Bennett" <simon.bennett@ntlworld.com> skrev i meddelandet news:GFwFDH.8JM@lugnet.com... (...) As far as I know, Meccano has 'L'-beams, and perhaps 'U' too? At least there are large plates, with folded sides, which is effectively a 'U'. (I (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Alex Farlie
       Ok, I am A computing person not a cival enginer but here are my comments (...) Additonaly thier is the fact that in many cases Lego parts are over engineered! Whilst meccano parts are fine for more traditonal mechanical designs. I feel that with (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Steve Lane
       (...) Well after recently observing a diff case bend under heavy loading, I'm inclined to disagree. I'd say most Technic parts are engineered to just the right standard to withstand normal usage and loadings. As regards the diff case, it was the (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Chris Fenter
      In lugnet.technic, Alex Farlie writes: (snip!) (...) FYI, Modulex is actually an advanced Architectural Signage company (www.modulex.com) founded by, and associated with TLG, operating internationally (& is also based in Billund) which, amongst many (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Meccano vs. Lego (Re: New Civil Engineer letter) —Thomas (T. J.) Avery
     I've looked through two sources of Meccano information: the main website: (URL) a parts list: (URL) opinion now, after being more educated on what Meccano has to offer, is that Lego is probably best, depending on how you intend to use it. If a (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: New Civil Engineer letter —Jason J. Railton
   (...) Well, I had both Meccano and Lego as a kid, and I can tell you that the Meccano didn't get a look in, past building a few things from the instructions. I really tried, but Meccano was just so slow to construct anything, and you couldn't really (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
 

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