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Re: I feel Blue but aesthetics is gray.
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lugnet.technic
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Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:11:27 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Stump Dunn wrote:
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One reason to be able to match an exact shade is if you are modeling
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something to be exactly like something else. If you are going to do that,
then Technic is not a good genre to be in.
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But i do build Technic and TLG have produced the parts i want in the colours
i want in the past. There is still current evidence that they are willing to
bend the standard colour-part rule in some circumstances.
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Technic Legos are basically a
functional version of linear art. They display the inside workings of a
machine which is what makes them original and educational. The goal is
function first, aesthetics second. If Aesthetics is your first priority,
then model team is a better genre to be in.
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You might want to clarify that Nathan. There are a lot of builders here that
produce excellent looking Technic creations and take alot of pride in thier
work. Can a clear line be drawn between to two themes ? I think the two
compliement each other and as such, if a technic creation can look better,
then try to make it look better. If a part exists in a colour that if used
would make your creation look better in your eyes, then use it.
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I meant that with Technic; there will always be holes and gaps in the bodies of
cars or the frames of machinery. For a “model builder” that is serious about
exact aesthetic details, Model team is more ideal. Dennis Bossman does not like
Technic for that reason (as far as I can tell). Technic pieces only give a
vague hollow shape to give the appearance of a covering- not that that is a bad
thing. Doing so makes the inside of a machine visible and it also makes the MOC
lighter. The more complete you want the outside to be, the more it weighs and
the more shock absorbers you need to add if you want a stiff suspension. This
also puts more weight on the axles and means that stronger motors are required
to power the MOC- which may break the gears if the builder is like me and
doesn’t know anything about torque.
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My issue is i personally believe that TLG could have picked a more visually
neutral colour for this common part.
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Agreed.
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However, I understand what you mean when you say that gray and black are
universal colors for functional pieces. Since TLG has decided to make them
in all colors, aesthetic purists will essentially have to fork over more
money to get their designs all in one color or in “matching colors.”
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This is good news for any technic builder utilising Blue. In my opinion, not
so good news for any other colour.
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At least blue is a beautiful color - but that is just my opinion. Chrome
marigold would be even better!
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The
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more importance a builder puts in getting an exact shade of a certain color,
the less they can do with the resources they have. The more colors TLG
produces, the more money it costs the builder to get bricks in “matching
colors.” TLG probably makes money off of kids in the toy store that arent
picky about colors because they don’t do anything with a set they buy other
that put it together and put it on the shelf. There are more of those kids
than there are of us serious builders, and kids in the toy store are
attracted to bright colors.
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But again an example of when TLG bent the rules because the colour is a very
important selling point is with the technic enzo. Why couldn’t the rules be
bent for axle pins ? The 2L axles in that set were black so the axle pins
could have been red to make it look beeter.
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I have not gotten the Enzo kit and am not familiar with the parts from that kit.
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Basically I am saying it pays to put aesthetics second to function. I try
to color coordinate pieces in my MOC’s, but that sometimes means making
MOC’s in a different color than is typical in real life or making them
multi-colored. I also have enough pieces in enough colors to get away with
color coordination.
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Likewise, however to date i don’t own any red or yellow axle pins with
friction. There were a lot of people claiming their investement in classic
grey was useless now that new grey didn’t match. I think the issue is similar
in that no collours appart from blue appear to match blue axle pins.
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Agreed. Another problem with making the colored axle pins without friction is
that when they are used for the outward body/shell of an MOC, the body/shell is
weakened. The body needs to be strong too.
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If you are trying to do the most with what you have, than worrying about
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colors is the worst thing you can do.
I like 8435 in blue because blue is one of my favorite colors but if it did
not have other non-blue colored functional pieces in it than I would not
have bought it.
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Are you suggesting that functional pieces are prefereable in non-blue?
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No; I am saying that: 1. There is not much reason to make gears any other color
than gray or black because those pieces are typically inside machines or covered
up. 2. Pneumatic pistons don’t really need to be any other color than yellow
but clear ones work just as good. 3. When TLC makes clear piston blocks and
yellow/red/blue pistons I don’t particulary like it, but I still use them
because I need so many to keep all my projects together simultaneously. 4. If
TLG were to group certain pieces as “functional/gray” and others as
“aesthetic/colored”, that would somewhat limit the use of those pieces. Using a
part in an atypical fashion is one way builders come up with new ideas. There is
no right/wrong way to use a part if it works. That is why form should follow
function. I can’t think of any good way to solve the color problem without
either apathy or spray paint. Purists may not like the spray paint idea but what
would they say if TLG sold Lego brand spray paint designed for Lego plastic? As
long as it comes off, and kids don’t try to sniff it- there is no problem:-)
You heard it here folks- TLG SHOULD MAKE LEGO BRAND SPRAY PAINT TO ALLOW USERS
TO ALTER THE COLOR OF THEIR PIECES!
Disclaimer: Lego is not responsible for any paint-addiction caused by their
product.
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| (...) Absolutely, this is a technic forum, lets assume we all have the technic function covered. The form aspect however, like you say is in the eye of the beholder. We all know lego have an extencive colour pallet and this thread has sited (...) (18 years ago, 21-Jul-06, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
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