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Greetings, all.
It has been a while since I built anything new or posted it to LUGNET. I have
been in (somewhat) regular contact with Kyle Keppler and Tim Courtney about my
status (still unemployed), plus I recently just survived a traffic accident.
Anyway, that's all water under the bridge. In preparation for the humongous
space base I am planning, I thought I'd preface it with a quick MOC called the
Galaxy Enforcer (after the Galaxy Explorer -- you get an A). You can view it
at:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=5335
Which is just about all you can do very soon because I'm going to strip this
puppy for needed parts. Here are a few details:
The canopy opens a full 90 degrees. The two bottom *gif files (bottom1 and
bottom2) show the rear landing gear retracted and raised. The front wheel
actually turns. Yeah, yeah, I know...what does a space fighter need with
wheels? I just think retractable landing gear is neat, that's all. For that
matter, what does a space fighter need with a tail? Again...
The two main outer guns were taken from the Millenium Falcon model (LEGO
#7190). There are also four additional guns, one pair directly beneath the
cockpit and the other pair on either side of the fuselage behind the cockpit.
I built the missles using alternating gray and white 2x2 round bricks --
alternating because I thought they would stand out more.
Now, I know the MOC looks like a mutated F16, but that's just the way it turned
out.
====================
Quick Note related to the "From" line: If there is a LEGO group here in Austin,
I have yet to discover a way to contact them. If there isn't, well...at least
now you know a potential name. Cheers.
====================
Keep up the good building.
Sincerely,
Pat Hough
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In lugnet.space, William P. (Pat) Hough writes:
> Greetings, all.
>
> It has been a while since I built anything new or posted it to LUGNET. I have
> been in (somewhat) regular contact with Kyle Keppler and Tim Courtney about my
> status (still unemployed), plus I recently just survived a traffic accident.
>
> Anyway, that's all water under the bridge. In preparation for the humongous
> space base I am planning, I thought I'd preface it with a quick MOC called the
> Galaxy Enforcer (after the Galaxy Explorer -- you get an A). You can view it
> at:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=5335
>
> Which is just about all you can do very soon because I'm going to strip this
> puppy for needed parts. Here are a few details:
>
> The canopy opens a full 90 degrees. The two bottom *gif files (bottom1 and
> bottom2) show the rear landing gear retracted and raised. The front wheel
> actually turns. Yeah, yeah, I know...what does a space fighter need with
> wheels? I just think retractable landing gear is neat, that's all. For that
> matter, what does a space fighter need with a tail? Again...
>
> The two main outer guns were taken from the Millenium Falcon model (LEGO
> #7190). There are also four additional guns, one pair directly beneath the
> cockpit and the other pair on either side of the fuselage behind the cockpit.
>
> I built the missles using alternating gray and white 2x2 round bricks --
> alternating because I thought they would stand out more.
>
> Now, I know the MOC looks like a mutated F16, but that's just the way it turned
> out.
>
> ====================
> Quick Note related to the "From" line: If there is a LEGO group here in Austin,
> I have yet to discover a way to contact them. If there isn't, well...at least
> now you know a potential name. Cheers.
> ====================
>
> Keep up the good building.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pat Hough
I am impressed with some features of the space craft but you are correct in
saying that this space craft resembles a F-16, which it does quite resemble
that particular aircraft. I am not impressed, however, that you have used
some names for some of the vessels for my LEGO Space theme but then again,
you did not know that I was using those names so let me help you find new
names for your space craft and help you build your base if you have any
problems with your space base.
Jesse Long
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In lugnet.space, William P. (Pat) Hough writes:
> Greetings, all.
>
> It has been a while since I built anything new or posted it to LUGNET. I have
> been in (somewhat) regular contact with Kyle Keppler and Tim Courtney about my
> status (still unemployed), plus I recently just survived a traffic accident.
>
> Anyway, that's all water under the bridge. In preparation for the humongous
> space base I am planning, I thought I'd preface it with a quick MOC called the
> Galaxy Enforcer (after the Galaxy Explorer -- you get an A). You can view it
> at:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=5335
>
> Which is just about all you can do very soon because I'm going to strip this
> puppy for needed parts. Here are a few details:
>
> The canopy opens a full 90 degrees. The two bottom *gif files (bottom1 and
> bottom2) show the rear landing gear retracted and raised. The front wheel
> actually turns. Yeah, yeah, I know...what does a space fighter need with
> wheels? I just think retractable landing gear is neat, that's all. For that
> matter, what does a space fighter need with a tail? Again...
>
> The two main outer guns were taken from the Millenium Falcon model (LEGO
> #7190). There are also four additional guns, one pair directly beneath the
> cockpit and the other pair on either side of the fuselage behind the cockpit.
>
> I built the missles using alternating gray and white 2x2 round bricks --
> alternating because I thought they would stand out more.
>
> Now, I know the MOC looks like a mutated F16, but that's just the way it turned
> out.
>
> ====================
> Quick Note related to the "From" line: If there is a LEGO group here in Austin,
> I have yet to discover a way to contact them. If there isn't, well...at least
> now you know a potential name. Cheers.
> ====================
>
> Keep up the good building.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pat Hough
Very nice Pat! :^) I like the classic styling. The missle thingies are a
nice touch.
BTW you can call your MOCs aaannnnything your heart desires. Their your
MOCs afterall. Keep up the great work!
~Trev
Astro Lift Co.
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In lugnet.space, Trevor Pruden writes:
> In lugnet.space, William P. (Pat) Hough writes:
> > Greetings, all.
> >
> > It has been a while since I built anything new or posted it to LUGNET. I have
> > been in (somewhat) regular contact with Kyle Keppler and Tim Courtney about my
> > status (still unemployed), plus I recently just survived a traffic accident.
> >
> > Anyway, that's all water under the bridge. In preparation for the humongous
> > space base I am planning, I thought I'd preface it with a quick MOC called the
> > Galaxy Enforcer (after the Galaxy Explorer -- you get an A). You can view it
> > at:
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=5335
> >
> > Which is just about all you can do very soon because I'm going to strip this
> > puppy for needed parts. Here are a few details:
> >
> > The canopy opens a full 90 degrees. The two bottom *gif files (bottom1 and
> > bottom2) show the rear landing gear retracted and raised. The front wheel
> > actually turns. Yeah, yeah, I know...what does a space fighter need with
> > wheels? I just think retractable landing gear is neat, that's all. For that
> > matter, what does a space fighter need with a tail? Again...
> >
> > The two main outer guns were taken from the Millenium Falcon model (LEGO
> > #7190). There are also four additional guns, one pair directly beneath the
> > cockpit and the other pair on either side of the fuselage behind the cockpit.
> >
> > I built the missles using alternating gray and white 2x2 round bricks --
> > alternating because I thought they would stand out more.
> >
> > Now, I know the MOC looks like a mutated F16, but that's just the way it turned
> > out.
> >
> > ====================
> > Quick Note related to the "From" line: If there is a LEGO group here in Austin,
> > I have yet to discover a way to contact them. If there isn't, well...at least
> > now you know a potential name. Cheers.
> > ====================
> >
> > Keep up the good building.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Pat Hough
>
> Very nice Pat! :^) I like the classic styling. The missle thingies are a
> nice touch.
>
> BTW you can call your MOCs aaannnnything your heart desires. Their your
> MOCs afterall. Keep up the great work!
>
> ~Trev
> Astro Lift Co.
Trevor, the reason I stated that I did not like the names that he used was
that I was going to name other space craft in my fleet after those names and
that it would either appear as confusing to people or the fact that I stole
the names of the space craft, which I did not steal the names for his space
craft. The reason that I do not have any models for the space craft is that
a small mecha that I have been trying to build (at least on paper) for the
past few weeks (think of Exo Squad meets Mechwarrior) has been a thorn in my
side, particularly in designing the legs and I have not completed that
design until today and that I do not have LDraw so that I can show you what
my space craft would appear in Lugnet.
I know that his mistake was unintentional but I need the names of these
space craft or else I can not provide any complete listing for my space
craft, that is my space craft will not have a proper classification system
and I need the names because, as it currently exists with our United States
Navy, all ships have a designation class, such as a Benjamin Franklin class
submarine or a Seawolf class subamrine or a Arizona battleship or a Nimitz
aircraft carrier and space craft, particularly my space craft and most, if
not all, of the space craft on Lugnet and all of the affiliated computer
sites, also have to have designation classes. I want to use other names for
my space craft but none of the names that I have thought in my head have
been as effective as those names.
There are some ways that we can resolve this in a more peaceful manner,
Trevor. You and the person who used a name for their space craft that I
have been planning to use can help me think of new names for my space craft
or I can help this person desing space craft and we can work on the space
craft as a joint venture.
Jesse Long
P.S. I have also been trying to make a way for my mecha, with the slight
repostioning of a few LEGO pieces, can also be used as a light space craft.
The arms of the mecha serve as small wings and the nose of the space craft
are the legs of the mecha. I hope that when I have it built that you are
impressed by this mecha.
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
snip
> Trevor, the reason I stated that I did not like the names that he used was
> that I was going to name other space craft in my fleet after those names and
> that it would either appear as confusing to people or the fact that I stole
> the names of the space craft, which I did not steal the names for his space
> craft
snip
> There are some ways that we can resolve this in a more peaceful manner,
> Trevor. You and the person who used a name for their space craft that I
> have been planning to use can help me think of new names for my space craft
> or I can help this person desing space craft and we can work on the space
> craft as a joint venture.
> Jesse Long
Unless someone has offically copyrighted something, then anyone is free to
use the same name as someone else. Especially since all of this is supposed
to be for having fun and not for making profit, right?
For instance, how about the name "Enterprise"? Let's see how many times
this name shows up:
1) U.S.S. Enterprise NC-1701A-E (fictional Star Trek starships)
2) U.S.S. Enterprise CVN-65 (real United States aircraft carrier)
3) U.S.S. Enterprise (real NASA space shuttle orbiter)
Which one of these vehicles should be renamed as far as you are concerned?
- Bob
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"Bob" <cg47@hotmail.com> writes:
> Unless someone has offically copyrighted something, then anyone is free to
> use the same name as someone else. Especially since all of this is supposed
> to be for having fun and not for making profit, right?
Copyright is for creative works such as pictures of the spacecraft,
text describing them, etc. Copyright is automatic, and need not be
"officially" done - this post is copyrightten by me, even if I don't
say it. However registering a copyright will make it easier to
collect on infringement.
Trademarks are for protecting names of products, and only apply if it
is an actual product, rather than something you do in your spare time
like Lego MOC's. Trademarks must be declared with "TM" or registered
(you get to say "R" in a circle) if so, in order to have any protected
status.
> For instance, how about the name "Enterprise"? Let's see how many times
> this name shows up:
>
> 1) U.S.S. Enterprise NC-1701A-E (fictional Star Trek starships)
> 2) U.S.S. Enterprise CVN-65 (real United States aircraft carrier)
And other Navy ships before that one, too.
> 3) U.S.S. Enterprise (real NASA space shuttle orbiter)
Not really - the NASA Enterprise never went into orbit. It was only
used for glide tests. I don't think it was ever fully equipped with
rockets, the special tiles, etc.
--Bill.
P.S.: Sorry if I'm being overly pedantic today....
--
William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/
(formerly known as hermit@bayview.com)
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Life is too important to take seriously.
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In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
<snip>
> Trevor, the reason I stated that I did not like the names that he used was
> that I was going to name other space craft in my fleet after those names and
> that it would either appear as confusing to people or the fact that I stole
> the names of the space craft, which I did not steal the names for his space
> craft. The reason that I do not have any models for the space craft is that
> a small mecha that I have been trying to build (at least on paper) for the
> past few weeks (think of Exo Squad meets Mechwarrior) has been a thorn in my
> side, particularly in designing the legs and I have not completed that
> design until today and that I do not have LDraw so that I can show you what
> my space craft would appear in Lugnet.
Sooooo, let me get this right. What you're saying is: You have not made
the space craft that you are refering to, and they are not in LDRAW, but you
are trying to tell people not to use names for models that they have picked
on their own for models that they have already made? :^} Okay...
> I know that his mistake was unintentional but I need the names of these
> space craft or else I can not provide any complete listing for my space
> craft
<snip>
Jesse, he didn't make a mistake. And yes, you can still provide a complete
listing for your ships as you originally intended. By the way, the name he
is using has already been used by someone else back in the classic space MOC
contest if I'm not mistaken, so it only further illustrates my point. You,
and he, can post almost anything you like in terms of a name for your ship.
It's all good. Besides, if you're really having trouble coming up with
original names that you know no-one is using, why don't you name your ships
the "rose petal class" or "fuzzy white bunny class" or something original
like that. At least you know that no one else will use those names. :^)
<snip>
> There are some ways that we can resolve this in a more peaceful manner,
> Trevor.
Jesse, in no way was I unpeaceful. I wasn't even talking to you, actually.
Did you read something out of context?
<snip>
> You and the person who used a name for their space craft that I
> have been planning to use can help me think of new names for my space craft
> or I can help this person desing space craft and we can work on the space
> craft as a joint venture. • <snip>
> Jesse Long
Jesse, there is no need for a "joint venture". Let's put it this way. If
you were to build your spacecraft tomorrow, call it the "bigbadfighter
class" and then I went and posted a spaceship the next day that was
completely different but also called it the "bigbadfighter class" for my own
purposes, there is nothing you can really do about it. Unless you took out
a trademark or something in the US, which costs money. THEN you could say
something. But until that happens, you can't really do anything. Sort of
like TLG's trademark. We have to use it a certain way as per their rules
and permission. But in your case it does not apply.
Anyways, this is not a non-peaceful thing. I'm writing this in a very
corgial mood. Let's all chill out, man! Have a Bud! :^D
Later!
~Trev
Astro Lift Co.
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In lugnet.space, Trevor Pruden writes:
> In lugnet.space, Jesse Alan Long writes:
>
> <snip>
> > Trevor, the reason I stated that I did not like the names that he used was
> > that I was going to name other space craft in my fleet after those names and
> > that it would either appear as confusing to people or the fact that I stole
> > the names of the space craft, which I did not steal the names for his space
> > craft. The reason that I do not have any models for the space craft is that
> > a small mecha that I have been trying to build (at least on paper) for the
> > past few weeks (think of Exo Squad meets Mechwarrior) has been a thorn in my
> > side, particularly in designing the legs and I have not completed that
> > design until today and that I do not have LDraw so that I can show you what
> > my space craft would appear in Lugnet.
>
>
> Sooooo, let me get this right. What you're saying is: You have not made
> the space craft that you are refering to, and they are not in LDRAW, but you
> are trying to tell people not to use names for models that they have picked
> on their own for models that they have already made? :^} Okay...
>
>
> > I know that his mistake was unintentional but I need the names of these
> > space craft or else I can not provide any complete listing for my space
> > craft
> <snip>
>
> Jesse, he didn't make a mistake. And yes, you can still provide a complete
> listing for your ships as you originally intended. By the way, the name he
> is using has already been used by someone else back in the classic space MOC
> contest if I'm not mistaken, so it only further illustrates my point. You,
> and he, can post almost anything you like in terms of a name for your ship.
> It's all good. Besides, if you're really having trouble coming up with
> original names that you know no-one is using, why don't you name your ships
> the "rose petal class" or "fuzzy white bunny class" or something original
> like that. At least you know that no one else will use those names. :^)
>
> <snip>
> > There are some ways that we can resolve this in a more peaceful manner,
> > Trevor.
>
> Jesse, in no way was I unpeaceful. I wasn't even talking to you, actually.
> Did you read something out of context?
>
> <snip>
> > You and the person who used a name for their space craft that I
> > have been planning to use can help me think of new names for my space craft
> > or I can help this person desing space craft and we can work on the space
> > craft as a joint venture. • <snip>
> > Jesse Long
>
>
> Jesse, there is no need for a "joint venture". Let's put it this way. If
> you were to build your spacecraft tomorrow, call it the "bigbadfighter
> class" and then I went and posted a spaceship the next day that was
> completely different but also called it the "bigbadfighter class" for my own
> purposes, there is nothing you can really do about it. Unless you took out
> a trademark or something in the US, which costs money. THEN you could say
> something. But until that happens, you can't really do anything. Sort of
> like TLG's trademark. We have to use it a certain way as per their rules
> and permission. But in your case it does not apply.
>
> Anyways, this is not a non-peaceful thing. I'm writing this in a very
> corgial mood. Let's all chill out, man! Have a Bud! :^D
>
> Later!
>
> ~Trev
> Astro Lift Co.
I have actually built the space craft but I do not have a scanner and some
of the pieces, due to insensitive relatives, have been broken and I am
fixing to get a job to buy replacement pieces and in the meantime, I was
working to build some blueprints on several pieces of graph paper and came
up with the "Demon" mecha/space craft. It is a mecha in the vein of Exo
Squad and MechWarrior and it can transform into a space craft and the arms
are the wings and the legs are the front of the space craft. I hope that
you like this idea once I scan it into the computer.
Jesse Long
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