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Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:15:09 GMT
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Z <leahy@concentric.net> wrote:
and built as a single unit.  It looks so much better that way, and it works
better that way too.

Works better how?

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:34:37 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Miller writes:
Z <leahy@concentric.net> wrote:
and built as a single unit.  It looks so much better that way, and it works
better that way too.

Works better how?

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/


While modules aren't designed for any particular setup, the space stations
designed and built as one unit are designed so that certain components function
with certain other components.  Such specific design results in a better
functioning space station, and certainly a better looking one.

Z


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Re: Space stations?
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Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:52:23 GMT
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Z <leahy@concentric.net> wrote:
While modules aren't designed for any particular setup, the space stations
designed and built as one unit are designed so that certain components
function with certain other components.  Such specific design results in a
better functioning space station, and certainly a better looking one.

Well-designed modules can produce a better whole than a designed-as-a-lump
one, for a complicated-enough system. This is why object-oriented
programming is so popular. Or why networking protocols are thought of as
layers.



--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:05:27 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Miller writes:
Z <leahy@concentric.net> wrote:
While modules aren't designed for any particular setup, the space stations
designed and built as one unit are designed so that certain components
function with certain other components.  Such specific design results in a
better functioning space station, and certainly a better looking one.

Well-designed modules can produce a better whole than a designed-as-a-lump
one, for a complicated-enough system. This is why object-oriented
programming is so popular. Or why networking protocols are thought of as
layers.



--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/


Nonetheless, the modular stuff is structurally weaker, and UGLIER than that
which is designed as one.  I don't ever build modular stations, due to such
things.

Z


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Re: Space stations?
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Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:34:10 GMT
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Z <leahy@concentric.net> wrote:
Nonetheless, the modular stuff is structurally weaker, and UGLIER than that
which is designed as one.  I don't ever build modular stations, due to such
things.

But think about how you'd build a _real_ space station. Wouldn't a modular
design make sense?

I understand where you're coming from on the ugliness point. Modular designs
tend to look very functional and mechanical. (But that can have it's own
appeal too, can't it.)

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:39:35 GMT
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Matthew Miller wrote:
Modular designs
tend to look very functional and mechanical. (But that can have it's own
appeal too, can't it.)

Form follows function, baby, and something that does the thing it is
intended to do, and does it well and efficiently, is a thing of beauty,
as beauty follows form.

At least that's MY aesthetic opinion.

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Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com  http://my.voyager.net/lar
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Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:02:31 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Miller writes:
Z <leahy@concentric.net> wrote:
Nonetheless, the modular stuff is structurally weaker, and UGLIER than that
which is designed as one.  I don't ever build modular stations, due to such
things.

But think about how you'd build a _real_ space station. Wouldn't a modular
design make sense?

I understand where you're coming from on the ugliness point. Modular designs
tend to look very functional and mechanical. (But that can have it's own
appeal too, can't it.)

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/


Remember:  We're talking about LEGOS here, and therefore coolness is more
important than realism.

Z


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Re: Space stations?
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Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:14:52 GMT
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Z wrote:

Remember:  We're talking about LEGOS here, and therefore coolness is more
important than realism.

Perhaps you are. I'm talking about LEGO brand building bricks, and the
constructions we can make from them, not about whatever it is you are
talking about.

If you want me to take you seriously, take The LEGO Company and their
rights seriously, including their right to determine what their product
is called, and what part of speech the name actually is. LEGO is an
adjective, by their reckoning, not a noun.

--
Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com  http://my.voyager.net/lar
- - - Web Application Integration! http://www.novera.com
fund Lugnet(tm): http://www.ebates.com/ ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet.

NOTE: Soon to be lpieniazek@tsisoft.com :-)


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 03:58:17 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Larry Pieniazek writes:
Z wrote:

Remember:  We're talking about LEGOS here, and therefore coolness is more
important than realism.

Perhaps you are. I'm talking about LEGO brand building bricks, and the
constructions we can make from them, not about whatever it is you are
talking about.

If you want me to take you seriously, take The LEGO Company and their
rights seriously, including their right to determine what their product
is called, and what part of speech the name actually is. LEGO is an
adjective, by their reckoning, not a noun.

--
Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com  http://my.voyager.net/lar
- - - Web Application Integration! http://www.novera.com
fund Lugnet(tm): http://www.ebates.com/ ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet.



NOTE: Soon to be lpieniazek@tsisoft.com :-)

This is lugnet.space, not lugnet.splitting-hairs.  Need you point out small,
insignificant errors?

Z


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:28:30 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Patrick Leahy writes:
Remember:  We're talking about LEGOS here, and therefore coolness is more
important than realism.

I don't automatically agree. For some, realism *is* coolness, as the more
realistic a creation is, the cooler it can be. And some build for realism with
no thought of coolness (which can occur naturally as a bonus).

-Tom McD.
when replying, "Spammenstein" was much too scary for movie audiences of the
1930's.

The San Francisco Bay Area Users Group
http://www.baylug.org


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:37:59 GMT
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I'm working on a modular one now but its not as neat as my mostly
brick ones.  See CLSotW: Aug 22 99 Original LEGO® creations by Rick
L. Kujawa.  The modular design takes many more specialized pieces.
I'll post some pics soon.

In lugnet.space, Tom McDonald writes:
In lugnet.space, Patrick Leahy writes:
Remember:  We're talking about LEGOS here, and therefore coolness is more
important than realism.

I don't automatically agree. For some, realism *is* coolness, as the more
realistic a creation is, the cooler it can be. And some build for realism with
no thought of coolness (which can occur naturally as a bonus).

-Tom McD.
when replying, "Spammenstein" was much too scary for movie audiences of the
1930's.

The San Francisco Bay Area Users Group
http://www.baylug.org


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:39:23 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Tom McDonald writes:
In lugnet.space, Patrick Leahy writes:
Remember:  We're talking about LEGOS here, and therefore coolness is more
important than realism.

I don't automatically agree. For some, realism *is* coolness, as the more
realistic a creation is, the cooler it can be. And some build for realism with
no thought of coolness (which can occur naturally as a bonus).

-Tom McD.
when replying, "Spammenstein" was much too scary for movie audiences of the
1930's.

The San Francisco Bay Area Users Group
http://www.baylug.org

I just make sure that the concepts used in my LEGO creations are at least
theoretically possible.

Z


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:09:50 GMT
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Well, I built a starship bridge, I still have it somewhere, and it took
so much space for what I wanted, I can't imagine a space station I would
like to build (I think of station McKinley from ST) Sometimes, you have
to build only what your bricks allow! :)

Scott S.

P.S. I remember a traveling LEGO show, when I was 10 or 12, (1985-1987).
It had a bunch of LEGO creations from space, like the Apollo capsule,
and they had an awesome space station / colony thing. It must have been
at least 8 or 10 feet in diameter, with tons of minifigs around. Does
anybody remember this?

_________________________________________________________________________________________
Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net
Systems Administrator/CAD Operator-Affiliated Engineers ->
http://www.aeieng.com
LEGO Page -> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html
Home Page -> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/index.html


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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Date: 
Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:12:33 GMT
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"Scott E. Sanburn" wrote:
P.S. I remember a traveling LEGO show, when I was 10 or 12, (1985-1987).
It had a bunch of LEGO creations from space, like the Apollo capsule,
and they had an awesome space station / colony thing. It must have been
at least 8 or 10 feet in diameter, with tons of minifigs around. Does
anybody remember this?

Was it the big white/transblue one that spun around a central axis?
It had cut outs on the side where you could look in and see scores of
minifigs working on computers and such.

Right next to it they had a modular land base that had a space train
that ran on 12V track with a Solar Power Transporter beneath it.

This was the first LEGO show I ever saw, I remember trying to build
the rotating station but I was dismayed by the number of bricks it took.

Someone on lugnet has a few pictures, can't find the link now though

-chris


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:27:23 GMT
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James Brown wrote:

In lugnet.space, Christopher Tracey writes:


"Scott E. Sanburn" wrote:
P.S. I remember a traveling LEGO show, when I was 10 or 12, (1985-1987).
It had a bunch of LEGO creations from space, like the Apollo capsule,
and they had an awesome space station / colony thing. It must have been
at least 8 or 10 feet in diameter, with tons of minifigs around. Does
anybody remember this?

Was it the big white/transblue one that spun around a central axis?
It had cut outs on the side where you could look in and see scores of
minifigs working on computers and such.

Right next to it they had a modular land base that had a space train
that ran on 12V track with a Solar Power Transporter beneath it.

Maybe, it has been so long. I think they had those 45D 1x4x5 white
angled windows, perhaps. Ugh, bad memory!

This was the first LEGO show I ever saw, I remember trying to build
the rotating station but I was dismayed by the number of bricks it took.

Someone on lugnet has a few pictures, can't find the link now though

That spacestation (and the accompanying show) went through here many moons
ago, and one of the few pieces of Lego nostalgia I have is the guide booklet
from the tour.  IIRC, the theme of the show was inventions, and so forth.
Would people be interested in scans?

I would like to see them, maybe I can stir up the old memory banks!

Scott S.


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:28:20 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Christopher Tracey writes:


"Scott E. Sanburn" wrote:
P.S. I remember a traveling LEGO show, when I was 10 or 12, (1985-1987).
It had a bunch of LEGO creations from space, like the Apollo capsule,
and they had an awesome space station / colony thing. It must have been
at least 8 or 10 feet in diameter, with tons of minifigs around. Does
anybody remember this?

Was it the big white/transblue one that spun around a central axis?
It had cut outs on the side where you could look in and see scores of
minifigs working on computers and such.

Right next to it they had a modular land base that had a space train
that ran on 12V track with a Solar Power Transporter beneath it.

This was the first LEGO show I ever saw, I remember trying to build
the rotating station but I was dismayed by the number of bricks it took.

Someone on lugnet has a few pictures, can't find the link now though

That spacestation (and the accompanying show) went through here many moons
ago, and one of the few pieces of Lego nostalgia I have is the guide booklet
from the tour.  IIRC, the theme of the show was inventions, and so forth.
Would people be interested in scans?

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/


Subject: 
Re: Space stations?
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lugnet.space
Date: 
Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:31:31 GMT
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Please post the scans>>>

In lugnet.space, James Brown writes:
In lugnet.space, Christopher Tracey writes:


"Scott E. Sanburn" wrote:
P.S. I remember a traveling LEGO show, when I was 10 or 12, (1985-1987).
It had a bunch of LEGO creations from space, like the Apollo capsule,
and they had an awesome space station / colony thing. It must have been
at least 8 or 10 feet in diameter, with tons of minifigs around. Does
anybody remember this?

Was it the big white/transblue one that spun around a central axis?
It had cut outs on the side where you could look in and see scores of
minifigs working on computers and such.

Right next to it they had a modular land base that had a space train
that ran on 12V track with a Solar Power Transporter beneath it.

This was the first LEGO show I ever saw, I remember trying to build
the rotating station but I was dismayed by the number of bricks it took.

Someone on lugnet has a few pictures, can't find the link now though

That spacestation (and the accompanying show) went through here many moons
ago, and one of the few pieces of Lego nostalgia I have is the guide booklet
from the tour.  IIRC, the theme of the show was inventions, and so forth.
Would people be interested in scans?

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/


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