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Hello.
The SPARTAN MK 1 is a surface effect, heavily armed, lightly armored air
defense artillery platform. It is armed with two nose mounted auto grenade
launchers, four 30mm auto cannon, 18 guided surface to surface missiles, four
air defense missiles, and standard smoke projectors. It carries one full reload
for all weapons and is self loading. Fire control is augmented by both LRAD and
SRAD radar systems. Please view it at:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=MRutherford
I am in the process of trying to figure out the whole MOCPages thing, and will
post when my page is up.
I have been delighted by all the cool entries for this contest, and hope that
this entry will contribute to everyone else’s enjoyment.
Attack!
Mike
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In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
> Hello.
> The SPARTAN MK 1 is a surface effect, heavily armed, lightly armored air
> defense artillery platform. It is armed with two nose mounted auto grenade
> launchers, four 30mm auto cannon, 18 guided surface to surface missiles, four
> air defense missiles, and standard smoke projectors. It carries one full reload
> for all weapons and is self loading. Fire control is augmented by both LRAD and
> SRAD radar systems. Please view it at:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=MRutherford
I find your moc to be both grotesque and arabesque....a chilling look at a
possible future...I paid for the whole seat, but I only needed the edge.
>
> I am in the process of trying to figure out the whole MOCPages thing, and will
> post when my page is up.
You are an idiot, and your Spartan has to be the worst entry yet. Stay away
from MOCPages, we don't want your kind there. You types with your fancy hats
and protractors.
>
> I have been delighted by all the cool entries for this contest, and hope that
> this entry will contribute to everyone else’s enjoyment.
I bet 2000 quatloos on the newcomer.
-Keith
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In lugnet.space, Keith Goldman wrote:
> In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
> > Hello.
> > The SPARTAN MK 1 is a surface effect, heavily armed, lightly armored air
> > defense artillery platform. It is armed with two nose mounted auto grenade
> > launchers, four 30mm auto cannon, 18 guided surface to surface missiles, four
> > air defense missiles, and standard smoke projectors. It carries one full reload
> > for all weapons and is self loading. Fire control is augmented by both LRAD and
> > SRAD radar systems. Please view it at:
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=MRutherford
>
> I find your moc to be both grotesque and arabesque....a chilling look at a
> possible future...I paid for the whole seat, but I only needed the edge.
> >
> > I am in the process of trying to figure out the whole MOCPages thing, and will
> > post when my page is up.
>
> You are an idiot, and your Spartan has to be the worst entry yet. Stay away
> from MOCPages, we don't want your kind there. You types with your fancy hats
> and protractors.
> >
> > I have been delighted by all the cool entries for this contest, and hope that
> > this entry will contribute to everyone else’s enjoyment.
>
> I bet 2000 quatloos on the newcomer.
>
> -Keith
Don't mind Keith, Michael. he's just feeling threatened by the sudden arrival of
somebody who could threaten his stranglehold on the grey-brick military MOC
market.
it's an awesome creation, though. and I'm still trying to work out exactly how
you've got it hovering...
good luck
-Anthony
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> You are an idiot, and your Spartan has to be the worst entry yet. Stay away
> from MOCPages, we don't want your kind there. You types with your fancy hats
> and protractors.
Who're you to be telling others to stay away from MOCPages Mr Moderator? Plenty
of good builders (You included) have risen from the kilns of MOCPages. We don't
need you to tell us what's good and what isn't. Get off your high Iron Donkey,
dude. (If you said what you said in jest, ignore all of the above)
Samarth
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In lugnet.space, Anthony Babington wrote:
> In lugnet.space, Keith Goldman wrote:
> > In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > > The SPARTAN MK 1 is a surface effect, heavily armed, lightly armored air
> > > defense artillery platform. It is armed with two nose mounted auto grenade
> > > launchers, four 30mm auto cannon, 18 guided surface to surface missiles, four
> > > air defense missiles, and standard smoke projectors. It carries one full reload
> > > for all weapons and is self loading. Fire control is augmented by both LRAD and
> > > SRAD radar systems. Please view it at:
> > >
> > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=MRutherford
> >
> > I find your moc to be both grotesque and arabesque....a chilling look at a
> > possible future...I paid for the whole seat, but I only needed the edge.
> > >
> > > I am in the process of trying to figure out the whole MOCPages thing, and will
> > > post when my page is up.
> >
> > You are an idiot, and your Spartan has to be the worst entry yet. Stay away
> > from MOCPages, we don't want your kind there. You types with your fancy hats
> > and protractors.
> > >
> > > I have been delighted by all the cool entries for this contest, and hope that
> > > this entry will contribute to everyone else’s enjoyment.
> >
> > I bet 2000 quatloos on the newcomer.
> >
> > -Keith
>
> Don't mind Keith, Michael. he's just feeling threatened by the sudden arrival of
> somebody who could threaten his stranglehold on the grey-brick military MOC
> market.
>
> it's an awesome creation, though. and I'm still trying to work out exactly how
> you've got it hovering...
>
> good luck
> -Anthony
Anthony
Thanks. In some of the shots I put the tank on a narrow black pedestal and
photographed it in front of buildings with lost of vertical shadows. The intent
was to camouflage the supporting bricks. On accident, my pics came out so dark
that I think that added to the concealment.
As for Keith, I have spoken with his mom, and I think she is going to smack
him around a little. He’s not a bad person, he’s just “Miz-undastood”.
Attack!
Mike
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In lugnet.space, Samarth Moray wrote:
> > You are an idiot, and your Spartan has to be the worst entry yet. Stay away
> > from MOCPages, we don't want your kind there. You types with your fancy hats
> > and protractors.
>
> Who're you to be telling others to stay away from MOCPages Mr Moderator? Plenty
> of good builders (You included) have risen from the kilns of MOCPages. We don't
> need you to tell us what's good and what isn't. Get off your high Iron Donkey,
> dude. (If you said what you said in jest, ignore all of the above)
>
> Samarth
Mr. Moray,
Keith gets over excited very quickly when threatened. I called his mom, and
it turns out that when he saw SPARTAN, he simply flew into a panic (he even lost
his asthma inhaler). When frightened, it’s not un-common for Keith to lash out
at the people he loves.
Keith has been trying for years to get me to post, and he has been helping me
(I’m a computer idiot) get my MOC page on line. He even posted my gallery on
Brickshelf for me. (I mean I’m a computer super-idiot!). Digital cameras and
email kicks my butt! So even though he is an imbecile, I am indebted to him for
his tireless efforts.
Don’t misunderstand me. Anybody who yells at Keith is never wrong. It’s like
bombing Hitler. It’s never wrong to yell at Keith, or to bomb Hitler. In fact,
if I had to choose to yell at Keith or to bomb Hitler…I think I’d yell at Keith.
Mike
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In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
> Keith gets over excited very quickly when threatened. I called his mom, and
> it turns out that when he saw SPARTAN, he simply flew into a panic (he even lost
> his asthma inhaler). When frightened, it’s not un-common for Keith to lash out
> at the people he loves.
Speaking of Keith's mom, she has got to stop giving out my number for people to
call her at. Just because she's always here doesn't mean I need random phone
calls from people looking for her. I mean, even though she's not bringing in
the cash like she used to, Don "Magic" Juan could still afford to buy her a cell
phone.
Oh, yeah, about the MOC. Using poor photography is an excellent way to cover up
shoddy construction techniques, but I don't think its use is warranted in this
situation. Very nice build, and an excellent target for any number of platforms
that perform their mission from a higher altitude (much like any modern-day
tank, I'm sure the SPARTAN's crew refer to their vehicle as a moving coffin).
Huah!
Derek
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In lugnet.space, Derek Schin wrote:
> In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
>
> > Keith gets over excited very quickly when threatened. I called his mom, and
> > it turns out that when he saw SPARTAN, he simply flew into a panic (he even lost
> > his asthma inhaler). When frightened, it’s not un-common for Keith to lash out
> > at the people he loves.
>
> Speaking of Keith's mom, she has got to stop giving out my number for people to
> call her at. Just because she's always here doesn't mean I need random phone
> calls from people looking for her. I mean, even though she's not bringing in
> the cash like she used to, Don "Magic" Juan could still afford to buy her a cell
> phone.
>
> Oh, yeah, about the MOC. Using poor photography is an excellent way to cover up
> shoddy construction techniques, but I don't think its use is warranted in this
> situation. Very nice build, and an excellent target for any number of platforms
> that perform their mission from a higher altitude (much like any modern-day
> tank, I'm sure the SPARTAN's crew refer to their vehicle as a moving coffin).
> Huah!
>
>
> Derek
Derek,
True dat true dat...
But that’s always the rub with ADA systems. Soviet ZSU, US Bradley Stinger
variant, or in the more extreme case, I forget what it's called, but it’s a
stinger/gun combo mounted in a HUMMWV. Self Propelled ADA is almost never
mounted on a real MBT style chasse. I think in WWII the Germans had a quad
flack unit mounted on a tank chasse, but even then all the ADA stuff was in a
thin skinned turret that wouldn't stop more than small arms fire.
The thinking is that if you have allowed your ADA system to be engaged
directly by the enemies’ tanks, you have already goofed pretty badly. If you
put so much armor on your ADA system that it can survive a direct hit by an MBT,
then the machine weighs so much that it can't carry enough missiles to justify
its presence on the battle field.
The two most common alternatives are to establish air superiority so you don't
have to field ADA or to deploy ADA assets that can engage form beyond the
enemies range (like a Patriot system).
Air superiority is everybody’s favorite, but not always possible in the early phases of an invasion. Whether, supply lines, air space restrictions (like when France won't let us fly over their country on our way to bomb Libya) all combine to make it a tough thing to establish early on. Don’t forget that if you’re the one attacking, you must also contend with your enemies ADA capabilities as well. SAM city. Air superiority is "da bomb" to be sure, but one shouldn't count on it as an article of faith.
Long range ADA systems are also big crowd pleasers, but have limitations of
their own. Their range allows a properly equipped enemy to see them coming and
either intercept them, decoy them, deny them (by landing or entering a valley)
or to destroy them at the point of origin (take out the stationary launcher).
So it always comes back to the best AD being a layered and integrated system,
and that means keeping some missiles up front, and mobile. And that means light
armor.
You could put missiles in a more survivable chasse, but it will cost you at
the strategic level. More fuel, more time, more support, for a system that is
not really eliminating your enemies’ main defense (his MBTs or Mechs). Besides,
if SPARTAN was much heaver, it would have to float on magic beams or something.
The sucker must already weigh at least 80 tons!
You are correct however. If an MBT puts steal on a SPARTAN the party is over.
Secondly, if a Legion Commander puts his SPARTANs in a tank fight, needs to
consider the benefits of being killed in action. The reception awaiting him in
Das Capitol would in all probability not be a pleasant one.
Attack!
Mike
PS So was that you who answered the phone when I called for Keiths mom last
night?
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In lugnet.space, Derek Schin wrote:
> In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
>
> > Keith gets over excited very quickly when threatened. I called his mom, and
> > it turns out that when he saw SPARTAN, he simply flew into a panic (he even lost
> > his asthma inhaler). When frightened, it’s not un-common for Keith to lash out
> > at the people he loves.
>
> Speaking of Keith's mom, she has got to stop giving out my number for people to
> call her at. Just because she's always here doesn't mean I need random phone
> calls from people looking for her. I mean, even though she's not bringing in
> the cash like she used to, Don "Magic" Juan could still afford to buy her a cell
> phone.
>
> Oh, yeah, about the MOC. Using poor photography is an excellent way to cover up
> shoddy construction techniques, but I don't think its use is warranted in this
> situation. Very nice build, and an excellent target for any number of platforms
> that perform their mission from a higher altitude (much like any modern-day
> tank, I'm sure the SPARTAN's crew refer to their vehicle as a moving coffin).
> Huah!
>
>
> Derek
Oh, and yes, my pics really do suck. I'm going to shoot some again and put them
on the MOCPage.
Mike
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In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
> Hello.
> The SPARTAN MK 1 is a surface effect, heavily armed, lightly armored air
> defense artillery platform. It is armed with two nose mounted auto grenade
> launchers, four 30mm auto cannon, 18 guided surface to surface missiles, four
> air defense missiles, and standard smoke projectors. It carries one full reload
> for all weapons and is self loading. Fire control is augmented by both LRAD and
> SRAD radar systems. Please view it at:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=MRutherford
>
> I am in the process of trying to figure out the whole MOCPages thing, and will
> post when my page is up.
>
> I have been delighted by all the cool entries for this contest, and hope that
> this entry will contribute to everyone else’s enjoyment.
>
> Attack!
> Mike
Hey, I saw this thing on Brickshelf a few days ago, and thought it was pretty
cool. It's got a neat shape, and some cool detailing. Also, your dio is pretty
nice. The first thing I thought when I saw the pics was that it looked like
Keith's style, building a nifty diorama, as a backdrop for a MOC. The scenery
you have here is cool, but the hovercraft is better. Hope you'll be posting some
more stuff soon.
-Dan Rubin
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In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
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Hello.
The SPARTAN MK 1 is a surface effect, heavily armed, lightly armored air
defense artillery platform. It is armed with two nose mounted auto grenade
launchers, four 30mm auto cannon, 18 guided surface to surface missiles, four
air defense missiles, and standard smoke projectors. It carries one full
reload for all weapons and is self loading. Fire control is augmented by both
LRAD and SRAD radar systems. Please view it at:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=MRutherford
I am in the process of trying to figure out the whole MOCPages thing, and
will post when my page is up.
I have been delighted by all the cool entries for this contest, and hope
that this entry will contribute to everyone else’s enjoyment.
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When I first saw this on Brickshelf, before you posted it here, I looked at the
background and thought to myself, “hmmm, studless, mind-bogglingly massive piece
count, access to the water table, marked lack of interiors, is Keith posting
MOCs under a new identity now?” Of course without the mustard yellow skies of
the Iron Reich I knew it couldn’t be Keith, unless he moved or painted.
I feel your pain on the whole technology issue. Everything I know about digital
photography and posting on the web (what little that is) I learned for the sole
purpose of sharing my Lego creations online.
Now, about the Spartan. Well done! I like the low-angle shots, where it looks
kind of low-slung and angular. Sort of anime-style, though not the
big-purple-hair-and-flaming-energy-sword anime. I appreciate the attention to
detail in the coloring, and the little finishing touches like the tank commander
minifig. And you’ve got the playability angle covered with the reloading trick.
My airforce isn’t going anywhere near it!
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In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
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Hello.
The SPARTAN MK 1 is a surface effect, heavily armed, lightly armored air
defense artillery platform. It is armed with two nose mounted auto grenade
launchers, four 30mm auto cannon, 18 guided surface to surface missiles, four
air defense missiles, and standard smoke projectors. It carries one full
reload for all weapons and is self loading. Fire control is augmented by both
LRAD and SRAD radar systems. Please view it at:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=MRutherford
I am in the process of trying to figure out the whole MOCPages thing, and
will post when my page is up.
I have been delighted by all the cool entries for this contest, and hope
that this entry will contribute to everyone else’s enjoyment.
Attack!
Mike
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Welcome to .space Mike.
Way to burst on the scene with a cool MOC and your own, um, scene. That’s a
great use for those 1x2x5 bricks.
It’s just scary how much thought you put into the weaponry, but the vehicle is well detailed and sculptural. Nicely
hovered too.
It’s good to see that you responded to Keith’s goading no matter what dirt he
may have on you. You just know he wasn’t going to let up...
Peace and hovering,
Professor Whateverly
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In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
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Are they castle diagonal wall-ey bits on the sides? Too clever! And the use of
the train roofy bit just tops it off. Beautifully modelled!
Cheers,
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In lugnet.space, Paul Baulch wrote:
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In lugnet.space, Michael Rutherford wrote:
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Are they castle diagonal wall-ey bits on the sides? Too clever! And the use
of the train roofy bit just tops it off. Beautifully modelled!
Cheers,
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Thanks.
Yes, those are castle corner wall things. They are difficult to work with,
but I liked the shape to much to let it go. I am thinking about trying to
re-build it with the wall peaces that have jungle plants printed on them(big
Islander Kit?), to see if it looks like camouflage, but I would need to order
like six of them off of Bricklink, and incorporate a bunch of green into the
rest of the structure. I don’t know. It might look cool, but then again...
Mike
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