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Re: The LD environment (or, Datsville in Space)
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Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:18:10 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Tom McDonald writes:
> In lugnet.space, Steve Bliss writes:
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> > Before we start posting models, or defining installations, it would be a
> > good idea to figure out the background environment (culture, technology
> > level, politics, etc.). That way, we'll know what types of models to post,
> > and what installations to create, and how to avoid glaring inconsistencies.
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> Good.
>
> > My take on this project is it should stay closer to hard science fiction
> > than to space opera, or Star Trek technology. More realistic ships,
> > stations, and equipment. Fewer light sabres, transporters, and force
> > fields. The only truly "fantastic technology" should be interstellar
> > drives. There may even be different kinds of interstellar drives.
>
> I agree. Less "magic" and more substance. I vote for no energy-matter
> converters (which includes transporters) at all, unless it is experienced in
> extremely rare isolated incidents with some previously unknown superspecies
> that is way beyond what we know. And no cloaking devices.
Agreed
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> Though I gotta agree with Duane to the extent that if there are field-type FTL
> drive units (like Star Trek), then there should be other kinds of usuable
> fields.
>
> To offer a compromise: what if we can limit force-field uses? That might help
> a bit. Maybe long term exposure could pose health hazards or something. Maybe
> the power cost is too formidable. If we keep their uses small (and maybe, if
> any, development gradual) it might help. But maybe that'll lock us into too
> specific of a date in time, where technology would be stagnant. Yet maybe we
> want that, at least for awhile.
My vote is for the power cost. Large bases might have force field technology
for protection, but would need a power generation facility to feed the hungry
beast. Ships might also have them for defensive purposes, but could only use
them for short periods of time, or face the possibility of running out of
gas (or plutonium whatever the case may be).
> > The political environment is an interstellar culture, in a period of
> > exploration and colonization. There are currently a handful of independant
> > planetary governments, possibly under an umbrella "United Planets"
> > organization. Some of these governments are former colonies, some are
> > alien species. There are also some organizations which are not tied to
> > specific planets or governments.
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> Good. Not everyone has joined: some will, some won't, some ain't happy.
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> > There are also a fair number of colonies of various sizes. Each of the
> > planetary governments has some colonies. Some of the bigger colonies have
> > colonies. Depending on the planet, there may be several colonies on one
> > planet, established by different governments.
>
> Especially in cases where no dominant sentient species has been located.
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> > Humans are only one of the two or three main species in the region. There
> > may be any number of other species; they are visitors from other unknown
> > regions, or possibly the expatriate remnants of lost worlds.
>
> Good. Aliens are good, but we don't need to be up to our armpits in them just
> yet.
>
> > Earth, the home planet of humans, is one of the larger planets, in terms of
> > population and power. There is a world government, but it is a republic
> > built from the nation-states. The world government mostly deals with
> > interstellar issues.
>
> Gotta speak up here (minor point): if the world gov't deals with interstellar
> issues, what would the United Planets org do? A UP sounds good, but it needs
> some purpose and teeth.
I have to agree with Tom here. Maybe something like:
United Planets Org
-World Government Org (Possibly including several worlds)
--Nations
---Colonies
Let's try not to get too complicated here.
> > Earth maintains a presence throughout the Sol system.
>
> Hi, I'm on Pluto. Please turn up the heat. Thanks. Hey, three-eyes: take a
> hike!
>
> > No other governments have any installations in our sphere of control.
>
> That should be true for any system. I can imagine that to be a condition for
> UP admittance.
Well, none that we know of. :-)
> > Moonbase Alpha was the one of the first permanent human installation
> > located off-Earth. It remains a vital part of the terran interstellar
> > organization, organizing and controlling the activities of most other
> > non-colonial terran space efforts. At one time, there was a significant
> > Lunar colony, but over time this colony has disappeared; no one wants to
> > live on the Moon. But there is still a large population of government
> > officials and employees, including strong research and military groups.
>
> Excellent. Folks could design and show equipment, facilities, and civilian
> stuff from times past. The Alpha-1 Rocket Base might no longer be functioning
> but it might be a part of a military museum now, a museum on permanent
> inactive duty, so it could still be official, even after all these years.
>
> -Tom McD.
> when replying, heigh-o Spamcake! awaaaay!
-Duane
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