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Re: MOCpages, now a Brickshelf alternative
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Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:39:15 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Sean Kenney wrote:
   Hi, everyone...

With the looming shut-down of Brickshelf, I would like to offer MOCpages as a safe alternative for everyone to continue posting their LEGO creations. In light of this, MOCpages now offers free image hosting. ... I want to assure you that MOCpages won’t suffer the same fate as Brickshelf. MOCpages has been covering its costs for a few years now, and I plan on implementing new revenue streams to keep the site running strong with the new added services. I’d like to implement a (quota/capped) free hosting service, coupled with a subscription service for greater (or unlimited) service. (a la flickr). Right now the new image hosting service is free... but that’s just because I wanted to get it ready for everyone as quickly as possible! :) The subscription service will be supplemented with sponsorhip and other partnerships to keep revenue balanced. LEGO activities are my full time job, and MOCpages is a major chunk of my business operations. It’s not going anywhere, and neither am I.

Sean
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MOCpages admin
LEGO Certified Professional
guy on LUGNET since 1997
Friend
And lots more I’m sure...

First of all, thank you for providing mocpages. When I posted my Fisher Building MOC on your site, a person from MichLUG left a review and that is how I found out about that club of which I am now a member.

I would support your idea of a two tier system similar to flickr.com that would be free for low to medium resolution images up to a maximum number of MOCs or photos and a premium service that provides unlimited (or at least more) space. Without the free entry level tier, many kids would not get started with sharing their mocs and potentially becoming part of the community. I think that at this point I have spent enough on Lego that I could spare some money to pay for a premium service.

Without a solution like yours, the use of flickr or photo bucket would just result in the disapation of the Lego community in the wider world of photography no matter how many tags we attach to the pictures.

Thanks for coming to the rescue.

-Jim (DecoJim) Garrett


Subject: 
MOCpages? Brickshelf? What should I do?
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Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:33:05 GMT
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Hi, everybody.

With all that’s been going on, a lot of people have been asking me things like:

“what should I do?”
“Should I stay on Brickshelf or move to MOCpages?”
“How do I know if any of these services are safe?”


Let me start by saying that Kevin did an amazing job offering Brickshelf to all of us for free, and it’s always been a valuable core to the fan communities. I have hundreds of pictures there, myself. And I know from my own experience running MOCpages that what he’s done has not been easy.


This is my plan, and what I intend to do for the good of all you guys.

MOCpages is, and always has been, a place to share your LEGO creations. Pictures are a very important part of sharing a LEGO creation, but what’s even better that just browsing files is being about to read about creations, to hear what people think, to get ideas, and to learn and grow from each other. And I’ve always believed very strongly in that. That’s why I started MOCpages, and I firmly believe that’s why you guys all use it.

The changes I’ve made to MOCpages this week are here to stay. In fact, I will continue to expand MOCpages’ services so that it can continue to grow with the community and be a strong and solid core for fans everywhere, for years to come. This is something that I’ve always wanted to do, but only recently has it become obvious to me that it’s really needed.


“Who is Sean? Can I trust this guy?”
For those of you that don’t know me, I’ve been heavily involved in the community for a long time. I’ve been collaborating on LUGNET and RTL for over 10 years. I helped launch LEGO Factory with The LEGO Company back in 2003. I build town, sculpture, and micro, although few know I have a huge ‘80s space collection. :) Together with folks like Robin Sather, I helped create the LEGO Ambassadors program. (I designed that logo!) :) I have good working professional relationships with many, many LEGO Company employees, and speak with them daily. And I’m one of the world’s five LEGO Certified Professionals; my full-time, self-employed, day-job is creating LEGO sculptures and running MOCpages. Before I became a full-time “LEGO guy” I worked for 10 years designing humane, approachable, and purposeful solutions for web applications.


Money?
As a business owner, I know that the only way to keep any service alive is to run it with a solid financial plan. For years now, MOCpages has been paying its own bills, covering the cost of servers, upgrades, moderation, and maintinence. But as the site grows, these will expenses grow, and I will be rolling out three additional revenue streams: 1) membership, 2) sponsorship, and 3) affilliations. The purpose of diversified income is so that there is no failure point; if one pulls in less money for some reason, the others can cover it. I’ll have more details on the specifics of these later, because right now I’m still putting the business plan togther.

Because “paid memberships” have been a sticking point here in the forums lately, I want to address it specifically. I’ve been analyzing how people use sites like MOCpages and Brickshelf, and how they share their creations. The continued free MOCpages service will be designed so that most of you can still use (and be very happy with) the service not having to pay anything. Those who want to flex their virutal muscles can sign up for a paid membership, of which there will be two levels. (Basic and Premium, for example.) The two paid levels will get you all sorts of really cool features in addition to just more storage or other “basic nessecities”. I’m excited about them, frankly, and I’ll share more when development of these cool new features is underway and price points are available. I want to stress again that MOCpages will stay fundamentally free, much as it is today.


AFOLs rock
But it all comes back to you guys. MOCpages is only a success because of the of people use it. Last month, over 1.2 million people came to see your creations. And 85% of the regulars show up every day. It fills me with joy to hear things like DecoJim’s story, who found a club and made friends, all because of MOCpages. (And he’s one of my favorite builders, to boot!)

So to answer those questions, “what should I do?” ... I’d personally love to see you guys come to MOCpages. It’s up to you, of course, but we’re going to have a great time there and it’s only going to get better.

Sean
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MOCpages admin
www.mocpages.com


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Re: MOCpages? Brickshelf? What should I do?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:18:28 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Sean Kenney wrote:
   Hi, everybody.

Hi Sean, and thank you for MOCPages.

   “Who is Sean? Can I trust this guy?”

Basically, I trust people.

I trust people from the start.

But who runs MOCPages? You and you alone? Not a team?

Without the ldraw.org team, Ldraw would have died with Jesse. And that’s basically the same problem with BS.

The deal is not “can I trust this guy” but “can I trust this website”.

Tell me there is a team behind you.

Didier


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Re: MOCpages? Brickshelf? What should I do?
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Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:50:10 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Didier Enjary wrote:
  
Without the ldraw.org team, Ldraw would have died with Jesse. And that’s basically the same problem with BS.

Is this true? Didn’t Tim Courtney establish the LDRAW committee in 1999, well after (and due to) James Jessiman’s passing in 1997? Furthermore, James was developing an open standard, he wasn’t providing a service or a selling a product. These are two very different things.

Brickshelf isn’t having problems because it is run by one person; it’s having problems because it can’t cover its operating costs. That can happen anywhere. Ford Motor Company can’t cover its operating costs either, and it has hundreds of thousands of employees.


   But who runs MOCPages? You and you alone? Not a team?
The deal is not “can I trust this guy” but “can I trust this website”.
Tell me there is a team behind you.

MOCpages doesn’t need a staff of employees to keep it running. I’m not without some help, though...

At our datacenter, a team of people are paid to back up the data every day, monitor the systems, repair or upgrade the computers, keep the power running, install security patches, and so on. Content, like reviews, are auto-moderated by MOCpages by detecting bad content (vulgar, attacking, etc). It forwards anything it’s not sure about to me for manual moderation. Soon, pages and image uploads will require moderation before becoming public... about 10 volunteers have offered to help do this.

Am I central to MOCpages? Of course! Running MOCpages part of my full time job. Could MOCpages transition to someone else if I got hit by a bus? Of course.

In this regard, MOCpages is much like LUGNET. LUGNET was run by by Todd & Suzanne for years... And they were able to disinvolve themselves and successfully transistioned the community to Rene.

Sean
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MOCpages admin
www.mocpages.com


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Re: MOCpages? Brickshelf? What should I do?
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Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:48:47 GMT
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Am I central to MOCpages? Of course! Running MOCpages part of my full time job.

   Could MOCpages transition to someone else if I got hit by a bus? Of course.

That’s exactly what I wanted to read. Take care of you and beware of the bus.

Didier


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Re: MOCpages? Brickshelf? What should I do?
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Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:32:48 GMT
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You have said that old postings on MOCpages that use Brickshelf for image hosting will automatically have the images copied to MOCpages and the pages updated to use your hosting. Two questions about this:

1. Is this still true, now that Kevin has given a reprieve for Brickshelf?

2. What happens if someone posts a NEW entry on MOCpages that references Brickshelf? Will it copy the images in that case as well?


Subject: 
Re: MOCpages? Brickshelf? What should I do?
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Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:44:04 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, William R. Ward wrote:
   You have said that old postings on MOCpages that use Brickshelf for image hosting will automatically have the images copied to MOCpages and the pages updated to use your hosting. Two questions about this:

1. Is this still true, now that Kevin has given a reprieve for Brickshelf?

Yes. There are about 130,000 images that were linked to Brickshelf from all the pages on MOCpages. I’ve now copied all 130,000 of them over to MOCpages and they’ll be linked to your pages very soon.

This applies to all the images that were linked via the “main photo” or if you pointed your page to a brickshelf gallery, (and/or adding captions to those photos). If, however, you used HTML in your pages to embed pictures with <img> tags you’ll have to find those images and save them manually. I’d actually like to parse through, find them all, and save them also -- but given the initial 2-week deadline I was afraid there wouldn’t be enough time.


   2. What happens if someone posts a NEW entry on MOCpages that references Brickshelf? Will it copy the images in that case as well?

No, the copying process was a one-time thing. I’d reccomend you use MOCpages’ new image uploader going fowards. You can always manually link to images (with HTML <img> tags) to Brickshelf (or Photobucket, or flickr, or wherever else) but you do so at your own risk. :)

Sean
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MOCpages admin
www.mocpages.com


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