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Hmmm...seems you Brickish folk are getting a bit too smug.
Bearing that in mind, the Repubrickan Navy (the fine and egalitarian
institution it is) has
decided to send a...presence out to yonder Pacific-type points. This is
no wee sloop;
rather, it's a first-rank ironclad of the "slap plates on it" variety
(because, as everyone
knows, shipbuilding iron isn't the best stuff in the world). Sure,
there are only 12 guns,
but what guns they are, and what protection they're hiding behind!
This ship--christened _La Gloire_--is destined to cause all sorts of
mischief, we're sure.
Why, it would even be a *dangerous* vessel, were it not for the French
habit of sending
the inept and incompetent out to command overseas. (Why? Well, because
anyone
worth their salt wouldn't want to leave the K'Nexinent, and it's a fine
excuse to get rid of
all those weebles who won't go away on their own.) So, in a sense,
they're getting the
biggest, most formidable platform possible, and then flushing it down
the administrative
toilet. Terribly French, I say.
Anyways, _Gloire_ is in what I call "Phase Six" of construction, roughly
analagous to
fitting-out (albeit with cannon installed). The stack isn't up yet, but
the stubs of all three
masts are; I'm planning to keep it close to the ship's historical rig,
even though I've sort of
blown it already by giving it only twelve guns. ;) This is an
exceedingly loose
interpretation, designed to inspire fear, loathing, and lots of rude
gestures from the
Brickish.
A few "current phase" shots, up until I can find a better home; the
first shows a 3/4
approach and the second a 3/4 recession:
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-foreqtr.jpg
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-aftqtr.jpg
The cargo hold (no big thrills, trust me):
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-cargohold.jpg
It's actually pretty spacious in the ship; this is a shot with the doors
open. The hold itself
is nine bricks high and 12x12; there are two "annex rooms" each 5x6x5
and a platform
for perishables that's above those two and forward of these doors.
Plenty of room to
hold supplies for a ship that has few friendly ports--or that seeks to
gain command of
unfriendly ones! Oh, as for the hapless sailors? Well, they sleep with
the shells,
underneath the gun deck that can be found in stage three at:
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-3-gundeck.jpg
Naturally, the Admiral sleeps in the stern gallery, and has a red
carpet.
Next, here's the guns run out and ports up. The guns have limited
pivot--they're fairly
dangerous that way--and they can indeed depress to hit much smaller
targets that try to
close the range. ;)
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gundeck.jpg
My absolutely favourite part of the ship--the stern gallery, where the
Admiral's cabin is
located. This came out fantastically! Somehow, those silly hard
plastic tubes were just
the right length to meet at the flagstaff.
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gallery.jpg
I hope to have fitting-out done in the next few days; then the ship will
be much more
attractive and look much less like a black and white box with guns
(which is pretty much
what the genuine article looked like.)
best
Lindsay
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> Hmmm...seems you Brickish folk are getting a bit too smug.
>
> Bearing that in mind, the Repubrickan Navy (the fine and egalitarian
> institution it is) has
> decided to send a...presence out to yonder Pacific-type points. This is
> no wee sloop;
> rather, it's a first-rank ironclad of the "slap plates on it" variety
> (because, as everyone
> knows, shipbuilding iron isn't the best stuff in the world). Sure,
> there are only 12 guns,
> but what guns they are, and what protection they're hiding behind!
>
> This ship--christened _La Gloire_--is destined to cause all sorts of
> mischief, we're sure.
> Why, it would even be a *dangerous* vessel, were it not for the French
> habit of sending
> the inept and incompetent out to command overseas. (Why? Well, because
> anyone
> worth their salt wouldn't want to leave the K'Nexinent, and it's a fine
> excuse to get rid of
> all those weebles who won't go away on their own.) So, in a sense,
> they're getting the
> biggest, most formidable platform possible, and then flushing it down
> the administrative
> toilet. Terribly French, I say.
>
> Anyways, _Gloire_ is in what I call "Phase Six" of construction, roughly
> analagous to
> fitting-out (albeit with cannon installed). The stack isn't up yet, but
> the stubs of all three
> masts are; I'm planning to keep it close to the ship's historical rig,
> even though I've sort of
> blown it already by giving it only twelve guns. ;) This is an
> exceedingly loose
> interpretation, designed to inspire fear, loathing, and lots of rude
> gestures from the
> Brickish.
>
> A few "current phase" shots, up until I can find a better home; the
> first shows a 3/4
> approach and the second a 3/4 recession:
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-foreqtr.jpg
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-aftqtr.jpg
>
> The cargo hold (no big thrills, trust me):
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-cargohold.jpg
>
> It's actually pretty spacious in the ship; this is a shot with the doors
> open. The hold itself
> is nine bricks high and 12x12; there are two "annex rooms" each 5x6x5
> and a platform
> for perishables that's above those two and forward of these doors.
> Plenty of room to
> hold supplies for a ship that has few friendly ports--or that seeks to
> gain command of
> unfriendly ones! Oh, as for the hapless sailors? Well, they sleep with
> the shells,
> underneath the gun deck that can be found in stage three at:
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-3-gundeck.jpg
>
> Naturally, the Admiral sleeps in the stern gallery, and has a red
> carpet.
>
> Next, here's the guns run out and ports up. The guns have limited
> pivot--they're fairly
> dangerous that way--and they can indeed depress to hit much smaller
> targets that try to
> close the range. ;)
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gundeck.jpg
>
> My absolutely favourite part of the ship--the stern gallery, where the
> Admiral's cabin is
> located. This came out fantastically! Somehow, those silly hard
> plastic tubes were just
> the right length to meet at the flagstaff.
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gallery.jpg
>
> I hope to have fitting-out done in the next few days; then the ship will
> be much more
> attractive and look much less like a black and white box with guns
> (which is pretty much
> what the genuine article looked like.)
>
> best
>
> Lindsay
I think "The Junk" will avoid Port BlocK if that behemoth leaves
drydock....hmmmmm...2 cannons, 6 muskets, 1 pistol and 12 katanas vs "THE
IRON GIANT" ...I guess my ship would be the naval equivalent of a fly on the
windshield....oh my !
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Mr L F Braun wrote
> The Repubrickan Navy (the fine and egalitarian
> institution it is) has decided to send a...presence out
> to yonder Pacific-type points. This is no wee sloop;
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-foreqtr.jpg
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-aftqtr.jpg
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-cargohold.jpg
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-3-gundeck.jpg
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gundeck.jpg
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gallery.jpg
Repubrickan vessels are always welcome at Port Block.
Obviously we'll have to shoot at her, what with her being a Frenchie and
all, but she'll be most welcome.
And I wouldn't let us shooting at her worry you overly. Port Block's
gunners aren't exactly top of the line. Actually they're not really even in
the line at all. They'd be the noisy guys over in the corner, well away
from the line altogether, smashed out of their gourds, toasting King Richard
II. The only thing they can hit with a cannon is a high decibel count.
National pride aside, 'La Gloire' looks just glorious, which is kind of
righteous when you think about it. The size, the proportion, the
colouration. Even though I'd have to shoot at her, I find myself kind of
hoping I will indeed see her with my own eyes one day anyway, even if she is
steaming angrily into Port Block.
I can't see from the photos - how do you get the decks to meet up with the
wedge bow?
Richard
Still baldly going...
Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/
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It's Awesome, but I must say this...
I hate you Lindsay!
Always inspiring me with creative ideas that I know will never come true!!
Oh no!!! Here comes another!!!! Nooooo!! Not THAT ship!! It's to BIG!!! What?
Buy thirteen blue tubs? And twenty gray and blue baseplates??? Ugh. As I said
before, I hate you Lindsay ;-).
Erin
--
Coming next year! The Canberra! (Or possibly the Dreadnought....nahh I'll
leave that one to you, Lindsay.)
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Erin Windross wrote:
> It's Awesome, but I must say this...
> I hate you Lindsay!
> Always inspiring me with creative ideas that I know will never come true!!
> Oh no!!! Here comes another!!!! Nooooo!! Not THAT ship!! It's to BIG!!! What?
> Buy thirteen blue tubs? And twenty gray and blue baseplates??? Ugh. As I said
> before, I hate you Lindsay ;-).
You'd be surprised at how few bricks that really is--though I need more
brick tubs, I'm amazed at how much black I used.
> Coming next year! The Canberra! (Or possibly the Dreadnought....nahh I'll
> leave that one to you, Lindsay.)
I've already done it. ;)
best
Lindsay
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Richard Parsons wrote:
> Mr L F Braun wrote
> > The Repubrickan Navy (the fine and egalitarian
> > institution it is) has decided to send a...presence out
> > to yonder Pacific-type points. This is no wee sloop;
> >
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-foreqtr.jpg
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-aftqtr.jpg
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-cargohold.jpg
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-3-gundeck.jpg
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gundeck.jpg
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gallery.jpg
>
> Repubrickan vessels are always welcome at Port Block.
>
> Obviously we'll have to shoot at her, what with her being a Frenchie and
> all, but she'll be most welcome.
That's OK. The functionalist approach is "what good is the iron plating unless
you can watch shot bounce off it?"
> And I wouldn't let us shooting at her worry you overly. Port Block's
> gunners aren't exactly top of the line. Actually they're not really even in
> the line at all. They'd be the noisy guys over in the corner, well away
> from the line altogether, smashed out of their gourds, toasting King Richard
> II. The only thing they can hit with a cannon is a high decibel count.
That's OK. The French always seem to forget that special ships and special guns
require special ammunition and special facilities...thus leading to a perpetual
shortage. Just like 'em, to take something useful and put it somewhere useless.
> National pride aside, 'La Gloire' looks just glorious, which is kind of
> righteous when you think about it. The size, the proportion, the
> colouration. Even though I'd have to shoot at her, I find myself kind of
> hoping I will indeed see her with my own eyes one day anyway, even if she is
> steaming angrily into Port Block.
Only if you deny her crew liver paté. I'll definitely have photos once she's
done; I'm just sorry that the primary citadel/casemate doesn't show its relief
in those photos.
> I can't see from the photos - how do you get the decks to meet up with the
> wedge bow?
Luck and geometry. It's 1x4/2x2 hinges around a frame, my standard method; but
the "bow sides" are 18 studs long and topped with tiles at just the right
height. Since the ship is 16 wide there, it's two 4x8 wing pieces on each side
and a 2xN in the middle--works out almost perfectly. Then I took a couple of
2x4x2 omnistud bricks and used them to mount the fairing. It's sort of the same
principle I used on the destroyers.
best
Lindsay
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Mr L F Braun (<38C779C7.1999F253@pilot.msu.edu>)
wrote at 10:15:35
> Hmmm...seems you Brickish folk are getting a bit too smug.
We're not smug, we know we're right ;-)
>
> Sure,
> there are only 12 guns,
Hardly worth bothering with, then.
>
>
> This ship--christened _La Gloire_--is destined to cause all sorts of
> mischief, we're sure.
I'm afraid so.
> Terribly French, I say.
So no good can come of it :-)
>
> designed to inspire fear, loathing, and lots of rude
> gestures from the
> Brickish.
I gesture in your general direction!
Now the serious stuff:
>
> A few "current phase" shots, up until I can find a better home; the
> first shows a 3/4
> approach and the second a 3/4 recession:
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-foreqtr.jpg
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-aftqtr.jpg
Wow. It's *massive*
>
>
> Next, here's the guns run out and ports up. The guns have limited
> pivot--they're fairly
> dangerous that way--and they can indeed depress to hit much smaller
> targets that try to
> close the range. ;)
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gundeck.jpg
How do you run the guns out? are they mounted on tiles, like most of
TLC's ships?
>
> My absolutely favourite part of the ship--the stern gallery, where the
> Admiral's cabin is
> located. This came out fantastically! Somehow, those silly hard
> plastic tubes were just
> the right length to meet at the flagstaff.
>
> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gallery.jpg
A lovely piece of work.
>
> I hope to have fitting-out done in the next few days; then the ship will
> be much more
> attractive and look much less like a black and white box with guns
> (which is pretty much
> what the genuine article looked like.)
I've been trying to take some pics of HMS Floater, but the light has
been appalling this week. She will have about 13 cannon a side on the
main deck, plus a few others forward, and on the quarter deck.
I'm not sure if practising broadsides against the Gloire will be a good
idea, though :-)
--
Tony Priestman
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Tony Priestman wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Mr L F Braun (<38C779C7.1999F253@pilot.msu.edu>)
> wrote at 10:15:35
>
> > Hmmm...seems you Brickish folk are getting a bit too smug.
>
> We're not smug, we know we're right ;-)
One can be right *and* smug, of course. :)
> > Sure,
> > there are only 12 guns,
>
> Hardly worth bothering with, then.
You haven't seen how much powder they pack behind the shells in those guns.
(I may also add some guns on the upper deck--smaller pieces, or perhaps
mortars.)
> > This ship--christened _La Gloire_--is destined to cause all sorts of
> > mischief, we're sure.
>
> I'm afraid so.
Especially to my postgraduate education.
> > Terribly French, I say.
>
> So no good can come of it :-)
Real Men Don't Eat Quiche (unless they're on a ship with lots of guns)!
> Now the serious stuff:
> >
> > A few "current phase" shots, up until I can find a better home; the
> > first shows a 3/4
> > approach and the second a 3/4 recession:
> >
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-foreqtr.jpg
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-aftqtr.jpg
>
> Wow. It's *massive*
~150 studs long, 18 studs wide--a little on the narrow side. It doesn't roll
well, sort of like the real _Gloire_.
> > Next, here's the guns run out and ports up. The guns have limited
> > pivot--they're fairly
> > dangerous that way--and they can indeed depress to hit much smaller
> > targets that try to
> > close the range. ;)
> >
> > http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/gloire-6-gundeck.jpg
>
> How do you run the guns out? are they mounted on tiles, like most of
> TLC's ships?
This was a serious piece of engineering--I used one of the slotted 1x4 bricks
from the Pirates line, one regular 1x4, and on the 2x2 base (under the 2x2
turntable) there is one 1x2 brick and one 1x2 one-stud plate--so it's
1/2-stud offset and sits in that groove. This prevents me from needing 24
slotted 1x4s--so it's just like the TLC ones in principle, except not as tall
and with greater economy of special bricks in the recoil mechanism.
> >
> > I hope to have fitting-out done in the next few days; then the ship will
> > be much more
> > attractive and look much less like a black and white box with guns
> > (which is pretty much
> > what the genuine article looked like.)
>
> I've been trying to take some pics of HMS Floater, but the light has
> been appalling this week. She will have about 13 cannon a side on the
> main deck, plus a few others forward, and on the quarter deck.
You need a digital! _Gloire_ may "develop" another two to three cannon a
side, or some mortars (as mentioned above)--but the upperworks are coming
along nicely. I'm out of rigging pieces, because I didn't do her masts in a
barque rig--which the original ship did have--but as a "standard" TLC pirate
rig. This would not be a problem except that the big black/brown trapezoidal
rigging bits were the wrong size so I built it out of the 1x1-dot-ended 42L
and 21L threads. Very wasteful, but it looks nice--more photos tonight, once
Phase Nine is done (the compass-platform, the searchlights, and the
deckhouses).
By the way, I've managed to contrive a decent ship's boat lowering system
with davits--my personal "justification for consuming planetary oxygen" for
the day. It's more useful than putting Beanie Babies in boxes, at any rate.
> I'm not sure if practising broadsides against the Gloire will be a good
> idea, though :-)
Just don't stop moving. They can't hit a moving target (too much beaujolais
and brie), and I shudder to think of the ship's turn radius. So perhaps HMS
Floater should try to do more than its name implies! :)
best
Lindsay
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> I'll post more pics tonight about the masts--but I've found that the 2x2x11
> columns from Fright Knights et al really do come in handy! I'll make sure to
> take some macro shots of the masts for you. It's all rigged (though I'm now
> out of rigging, ugh) and it looks fairly good. I just don't have sails, but
> it's got a smokestack, so who needs 'em! ;)
Cool! I look forward to seeing them!
Dave!
(by the way, what does a serviceable digital cam run for these days?)
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Dave Schuler wrote:
> In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > I'll post more pics tonight about the masts--but I've found that the 2x2x11
> > columns from Fright Knights et al really do come in handy! I'll make sure to
> > take some macro shots of the masts for you. It's all rigged (though I'm now
> > out of rigging, ugh) and it looks fairly good. I just don't have sails, but
> > it's got a smokestack, so who needs 'em! ;)
>
> Cool! I look forward to seeing them!
>
> Dave!
>
> (by the way, what does a serviceable digital cam run for these days?)
Mine (a Fuji DX-10) ran $200; I got a special offer for a USB memory reader free
(by post, took 5 weeks) and bought an 8MB memory card (it comes with a 2MB--way
too small) and AC adapter (digital cams eat batteries, my yes) from buy.com for a
total of $50. A tripod, essential, because flash really glares off LEGO bricks,
ran another $20 at Target. So for $280 including tax I got a complete camera
package, and it does a decent enough job. The lighting in my basement is truly
awful.
A lot of the real improvement of images comes through IrfanView, however--a great
little shareware programme (I can't remember who turned me on to it, though).
Gamma Correction forever!
best
Lindsay
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