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By happy coincidence, I managed to throw together the upper decks &
rigging of my first foray into big ships, HMS Floater, and buy a digital
camera in the same couple of weeks.
The result is my first serious MOC for about 20 years, some pictures of
which can be seen here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4470
I'll eventually get something more informative together, but I just want
to show off :-)
The next one will be bigger, with useful things like hatches to get from
deck to deck. But I think that she is nicely minifig scale.
--
Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> By happy coincidence, I managed to throw together the upper decks &
> rigging of my first foray into big ships, HMS Floater, and buy a digital
> camera in the same couple of weeks.
>
> The result is my first serious MOC for about 20 years, some pictures of
> which can be seen here:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4470
>
> I'll eventually get something more informative together, but I just want
> to show off :-)
>
> The next one will be bigger, with useful things like hatches to get from
> deck to deck. But I think that she is nicely minifig scale.
Wow, that is a big ship, how many cannons does it carry? I feel sorry for
any pirate that tries to mess with that.
I'd love to a more detailed model with interior shots, too.
George
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On Thu, 10 May 2001, George Haberberger (<GD4I3M.Fyw@lugnet.com>) wrote
at 14:11:46
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>
> Wow, that is a big ship, how many cannons does it carry? I feel sorry for
> any pirate that tries to mess with that.
>
> I'd love to a more detailed model with interior shots, too.
While I actually possess the full complement of 64 cannon, the only ones
currently on board are those that are visible, which is about 50. I've
just received my UKS@H orders, so I can now do a full complement of
guns, all with brown wheels & carriages. Yes! :-)
There's not much to see inside, I'm afraid, as I was in a hurry to
finish it, and I decided quite a long time ago that this one isn't good
enough, so I didn't want to put huge amounts of effort into it.
While she was designed so that you could take each deck off to look
inside, it all gets very tricky once the rigging is added. In fact, I
have to partially disassemble the forward bulwarks, because I built over
the joint by mistake :-)
--
Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, George Haberberger writes:
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> I feel sorry for any pirate that tries to mess with that.
Arrrrr, t'will be a pyrate ship soon enuf, matey. Now 'scuse me whilst me
an' a few o' the lads start a-rollin' cannon balls across the deck.
Mutiny, mutiny,
is our cry,
M - U - T - I - N - Y!
Anonymous Impressed Fo'c'sle Deckhand Soon To Be The Dread Pirate Roberts
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In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, George Haberberger writes:
>
> >
> > I feel sorry for any pirate that tries to mess with that.
>
> Arrrrr, t'will be a pyrate ship soon enuf, matey. Now 'scuse me whilst me
> an' a few o' the lads start a-rollin' cannon balls across the deck.
>
> Mutiny, mutiny,
> is our cry,
> M - U - T - I - N - Y!
>
> Anonymous Impressed Fo'c'sle Deckhand Soon To Be The Dread Pirate Roberts
Having seen HMS Flesher in the float...er, HMS Floater in the
flesh, it's truly impressive. The stern gallery detail is just
magnificent, and though I didn't get the chance to see it with
the rig up, I can imagine how little justice the .jpgs do it.
(I did see the masts, but they were lying down, Forest Fresh...)
One of the coolest innovations, IMHO, is the gunports. It
started out as a second-choice solution, and ended up looking
*far* better than using 2x2 flags. It just feels "heavy", and
all those cannon really are on wheels.
Hey, are you still going to fiddle with replacing those hull
pieces at front and rear before you send 'er to the breakers'?
best
LFB
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On Thu, 10 May 2001, Mr L F Braun (<GD4u0F.1xz@lugnet.com>) wrote at
18:29:03
> In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > In lugnet.pirates, George Haberberger writes:
> >
> > >
> > > I feel sorry for any pirate that tries to mess with that.
> >
> > Arrrrr, t'will be a pyrate ship soon enuf, matey. Now 'scuse me whilst me
> > an' a few o' the lads start a-rollin' cannon balls across the deck.
> >
> > Mutiny, mutiny,
> > is our cry,
> > M - U - T - I - N - Y!
> >
> > Anonymous Impressed Fo'c'sle Deckhand Soon To Be The Dread Pirate Roberts
>
> Having seen HMS Flesher in the float...er, HMS Floater in the
> flesh, it's truly impressive. The stern gallery detail is just
> magnificent, and though I didn't get the chance to see it with
> the rig up, I can imagine how little justice the .jpgs do it.
> (I did see the masts, but they were lying down, Forest Fresh...)
I had to dust them before stepping them :-)
>
> One of the coolest innovations, IMHO, is the gunports. It
> started out as a second-choice solution, and ended up looking
> *far* better than using 2x2 flags. It just feels "heavy", and
> all those cannon really are on wheels.
I'm really happy with the gunports. The use of black against white
really gives the impression of ironwork.
>
> Hey, are you still going to fiddle with replacing those hull
> pieces at front and rear before you send 'er to the breakers'?
Doubtful. Just like the real thing, she's built from the bottom up. I
might actually use the midsections next time round, but as the basis for
a much wider hull. Fortunately, I've acquired an extra 6285 and a 6274
since the keel was laid, so the next one can be bigger in all dimensions
:-D
The bow will have to go, though. It's just not the right shape.
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Tony Priestman
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Tony Priestman wrote in message
<3gqtgBArRc+6EwF0@you-rang.demon.co.uk>...
> By happy coincidence, I managed to throw together the upper decks &
> rigging of my first foray into big ships, HMS Floater, and buy a • digital
> camera in the same couple of weeks.
>
> The result is my first serious MOC for about 20 years, some pictures • of
> which can be seen here:
That's a very beautiful ship, Tony! I like the way you've used the std
hull pieces as a base and worked up from them, and especially the
rigging, with the way the stacked studs of the string pieces look like
blocks.
My only criticism is the way the brown shroud pieces attach to the
hull. I've almost never seen this done "beefily" enough to look
realistic, or far enough down the hull. Partly it's a limitation of
those pre-built rigging pieces themselves, they are very awkward to
use. This pic (http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=7856)
shows my own attempt, and although I think the attachments are in the
right place the Lego clips just don't look big and solid enough.
This pic of the Endeavour replica isn't too bad at showing what I
mean:
http://www.tallship.co.uk/tallships/issue012-01.phtml?orderID=
There ought to be another set of shrouds above the fighting tops too.
Next time I do a ship I'm going to buy a reel of black string and do
it all that way :-)
Kevin
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On Thu, 10 May 2001, Kevin Wilson (<GD534p.28L@lugnet.com>) wrote at
21:48:55
> Tony Priestman wrote in message
> <3gqtgBArRc+6EwF0@you-rang.demon.co.uk>...
> > By happy coincidence, I managed to throw together the upper decks &
> > rigging of my first foray into big ships, HMS Floater, and buy a • digital
> > camera in the same couple of weeks.
> >
> > The result is my first serious MOC for about 20 years, some pictures • of
> > which can be seen here:
>
> That's a very beautiful ship, Tony! I like the way you've used the std
> hull pieces as a base and worked up from them, and especially the
> rigging, with the way the stacked studs of the string pieces look like
> blocks.
Yes, another happy accident :-) The trouble with the studded string is
that there are only two lengths. To get the variability I needed, I had
to double up & wrap round the masts. This has led to the block like
bits, which really do add to the impression.
>
> My only criticism is the way the brown shroud pieces attach to the
> hull. I've almost never seen this done "beefily" enough to look
> realistic, or far enough down the hull. Partly it's a limitation of
> those pre-built rigging pieces themselves, they are very awkward to
> use.
Absolutely. I briefly considered trying to extend them, and in another
place <gasp> shorten them. Really, I just needed something to look
reasonably 'proper', and as an impression, I think it works. The next
one will be better.
> This pic (http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=7856)
> shows my own attempt, and although I think the attachments are in the
> right place the Lego clips just don't look big and solid enough.
This is one of the things I'll be working on. Nice looking ship.
>
> This pic of the Endeavour replica isn't too bad at showing what I
> mean:
> http://www.tallship.co.uk/tallships/issue012-01.phtml?orderID=
The other thing it's difficult to do is the angle they're at. LEGO ones
go ||| but real ones go ///
||| ///
||| ///
>
> There ought to be another set of shrouds above the fighting tops too.
Yes, but they're smaller than the lower ones, and I couldn't quickly
think of a way of doing them.
> Next time I do a ship I'm going to buy a reel of black string and do
> it all that way :-)
But... but... that's... non-LEGO! ;-)
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Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> By happy coincidence, I managed to throw together the upper decks &
> rigging of my first foray into big ships, HMS Floater, and buy a digital
> camera in the same couple of weeks.
>
> The result is my first serious MOC for about 20 years, some pictures of
> which can be seen here:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4470
>
> I'll eventually get something more informative together, but I just want
> to show off :-)
>
> The next one will be bigger, with useful things like hatches to get from
> deck to deck. But I think that she is nicely minifig scale.
I am really impressed by the detail and effort put into this ship. I am
surprised that you are going to tear it down and build a bigger better one,
but I can only believe that it will be astounding!
As far as this one goes it's a testament to the Lego ship buildiers art.
GREG~
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On Thu, 10 May 2001, Greg Howell (<GD58xw.GqH@lugnet.com>) wrote at
23:51:32
> In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> > By happy coincidence, I managed to throw together the upper decks &
> > rigging of my first foray into big ships, HMS Floater, and buy a digital
> > camera in the same couple of weeks.
> >
> > The result is my first serious MOC for about 20 years, some pictures of
> > which can be seen here:
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4470
> >
> > I'll eventually get something more informative together, but I just want
> > to show off :-)
> >
> > The next one will be bigger, with useful things like hatches to get from
> > deck to deck. But I think that she is nicely minifig scale.
>
> I am really impressed by the detail and effort put into this ship. I am
> surprised that you are going to tear it down and build a bigger better one,
> but I can only believe that it will be astounding!
> As far as this one goes it's a testament to the Lego ship buildiers art.
Thanks. I'll take more pictures as I take it apart, as there are bits
that are 'built in' & not normally visible.
The whole thing is a bit of a compromise, but I've learned a lot from
the exercise :-)
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Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> On Thu, 10 May 2001, Greg Howell (<GD58xw.GqH@lugnet.com>) wrote at
> 23:51:32
> > I am really impressed by the detail and effort put into this ship. I am
> > surprised that you are going to tear it down and build a bigger better one,
> > but I can only believe that it will be astounding!
> > As far as this one goes it's a testament to the Lego ship buildiers art.
>
> Thanks. I'll take more pictures as I take it apart, as there are bits
> that are 'built in' & not normally visible.
...thus my renaming of this thread. Maybe as you're taking it
apart, you can create a "cubist ship" that is at once inside and
outside, top and bottom, pirate and Imperial...
> The whole thing is a bit of a compromise, but I've learned a lot from
> the exercise :-)
Absolutely--so have I! Especially as regards judicious use of
red and black with brown and white. Expect to see some of your
inspiration in my rebuild of _Gloire_.
best
Lindsay
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