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Folks:
Arr and all that.
Anyway, I'm building my 6285 Black Sea's Barracuda and I'm up to the
part where you put the mast parts into the 3-inch (or so) tube mast
base. I find the the four slots on the tubes (that fit the tiny tabs on
the bottoms of the masts) are rotated about 5-10 degrees off-center so
that when the masts and sails are installed they're on a slant (relative
to the ship's fore and aft orientation) and the ratlines are twisted (to
the right as you look forward.)
When i make the masts square with the ship they sit slightly above where
they should and are constantly pulling the ratlines out of their
attatchments on the gunwhales. Anybody else have this problem?
I have another extension (from 6270 Forbidden Island) and the slots are
square to the base.
It's no big deal (and no I'm not sending the ship back - it's
magnificent) but it bugs me. Do I have defective tubes?
Thanks
SteveC
Captain Perplexedbeard
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In lugnet.pirates, Stephen A. Campbell writes:
> Anyway, I'm building my 6285 Black Sea's Barracuda and I'm up to the
> part where you put the mast parts into the 3-inch (or so) tube mast
> base. I find the the four slots on the tubes (that fit the tiny tabs on
> the bottoms of the masts) are rotated about 5-10 degrees off-center so
> that when the masts and sails are installed they're on a slant (relative
> to the ship's fore and aft orientation) and the ratlines are twisted (to
> the right as you look forward.)
I've got one tall mast base that's like that too, but I got it in a trade,
so I don't know the original source. Surprised the heck out of me when I
found it. I figured mine was just a fluek, but now I wonder...
J
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Stephen A. Campbell (<396A05CD.C6977CD6@larc.nasa.g
ov>) wrote at 17:20:14
>
> When i make the masts square with the ship they sit slightly above where
> they should and are constantly pulling the ratlines out of their
> attatchments on the gunwhales. Anybody else have this problem?
>
> I have another extension (from 6270 Forbidden Island) and the slots are
> square to the base.
>
> It's no big deal (and no I'm not sending the ship back - it's
> magnificent) but it bugs me. Do I have defective tubes?
Yes you do.
I don't recall having this problem with any of mine. I shudder at the
prospect of finding such a thing - there's probably no chance of getting
it replaced by TLC now :(
--
Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, Jeff Johnston writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Stephen A. Campbell writes:
> > Anyway, I'm building my 6285 Black Sea's Barracuda and I'm up to the
> > part where you put the mast parts into the 3-inch (or so) tube mast
> > base. I find the the four slots on the tubes (that fit the tiny tabs on
> > the bottoms of the masts) are rotated about 5-10 degrees off-center so
> > that when the masts and sails are installed they're on a slant (relative
> > to the ship's fore and aft orientation) and the ratlines are twisted (to
> > the right as you look forward.)
>
> I've got one tall mast base that's like that too, but I got it in a trade,
> so I don't know the original source. Surprised the heck out of me when I
> found it. I figured mine was just a fluek, but now I wonder...
Hmm, I was just noticing a few weeks ago (just before Brickfest when I was
building a bunch of pirate ships) that I have one also. It looks like at one
point they must have had the mold assembled wrong (the molds are multipart),
though I would have expected it to have alignment holes to prevent this type
of problem. It definitely isn't a damaged part (the missalignment is large
enough that you would see stress marks if something had twisted it).
Frank
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Mmmmm. I have two BSBs, one with the twist in both masts, one not. Neither
of my forbidden island bits are twisted.
My solution was simply to rearrange the height of the masts (as part of the
Port Block refit) so that the ratlines tend to hold the upper sections a
little higher, so that the pins don't quite bed down into the off square
slots.
The twisted ones are more or less as new condition, and as per Frank, there
are no signs of post manufacture deformity.
File the facts under excrement happens, I think ;-)
Or better still, treat it as an obscure kind of mast rot, and design a
seagoing solution!
If TLC had a replacement available, I'd take it, but I haven't bothered to
chase it up. I'm still grinning from ear to ear over getting hold of the
ship in the first place :-) Just glorious......
Richard
Still baldly going......
Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/
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In lugnet.pirates, Jeff Johnston writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Stephen A. Campbell writes:
> > Anyway, I'm building my 6285 Black Sea's Barracuda and I'm up to the
> > part where you put the mast parts into the 3-inch (or so) tube mast
> > base. I find the the four slots on the tubes (that fit the tiny tabs on
> > the bottoms of the masts) are rotated about 5-10 degrees off-center so
> > that when the masts and sails are installed they're on a slant (relative
> > to the ship's fore and aft orientation) and the ratlines are twisted (to
> > the right as you look forward.)
>
> I've got one tall mast base that's like that too, but I got it in a trade,
> so I don't know the original source. Surprised the heck out of me when I
> found it. I figured mine was just a fluek, but now I wonder...
>
> J
I have examples of both types, but naively assumed it was deliberate. Possibly
related (but probably not) is the existence of two slightly different versions
of the tall rigging part. IIRC they differ in height by about half the width of
one bar.
Chris
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Tony Priestman wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Stephen A. Campbell (<396A05CD.C6977CD6@larc.nasa.g
> ov>) wrote at 17:20:14
> >
> > It's no big deal (and no I'm not sending the ship back - it's
> > magnificent) but it bugs me. Do I have defective tubes?
>
> Yes you do.
>
> I don't recall having this problem with any of mine. I shudder at the
> prospect of finding such a thing - there's probably no chance of getting
> it replaced by TLC now :(
> --
> Tony Priestman
I wish. Like I said, it's not that big of a deal, just an oddity to report.
And seeing that I'm not the only one helps. They don't cause that much of a
problem, just the ratlines don't seat as securely as they should. I'll live,
but I might have to keel-haul somebody to assuage my dissapointment.
"Cabin boy Timmy on deck!"
SteveC
Captain Retaliationbeard
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"Stephen A. Campbell" wrote:
> Like I said, it's not that big of a deal, just an oddity to report.
> And seeing that I'm not the only one helps. They don't cause that much of a
> problem, just the ratlines don't seat as securely as they should. I'll live,
> but I might have to keel-haul somebody to assuage my dissapointment.
*** SACRILEGE ALERT *** SACRILEGE ALERT ***
Have you considered taking a file or something to the mast base, to put in
notches in the correct places? I have, but I haven't gotten around to doing
it yet. Anyone tried this yet? How did it work?
J
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Jeff Johnston wrote:
> "Stephen A. Campbell" wrote:
>
> > Like I said, it's not that big of a deal, just an oddity to report.
> > And seeing that I'm not the only one helps. They don't cause that much of a
> > problem, just the ratlines don't seat as securely as they should. I'll live,
> > but I might have to keel-haul somebody to assuage my dissapointment.
>
> *** SACRILEGE ALERT *** SACRILEGE ALERT ***
>
> Have you considered taking a file or something to the mast base, to put in
> notches in the correct places? I have, but I haven't gotten around to doing
> it yet. Anyone tried this yet? How did it work?
Another, possibly better, possibility: Mount the base on a 2x2 or 4x4 turntable.
This will add height, but if you can compensate for the ratline height it should
solve the problem.
best
LFB
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