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a) When should I put my order in for a Metroliner? Other than the obvious
answer of "Now!" but when are they shipping?
b) I was at McDonalds today with said coworker and they have Bionicle happy
meals now. However, they very much appear to suck. I've never really been
a fan of Bionicle or for that matter Lego Racers, RoboRiders or Throwbots,
but these are even worse! They don't even LOOK like Lego :)
Calum
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang writes:
> They don't even LOOK like Lego :)
>
> Calum
Actually, I believe that was the intent of TLG...
They wanted to break into the 'Action Figure' market.
Anyway, I still like the design of Onua http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8532,
and the various new Technic parts are always useful!
-Richard
‘who still doesn’t think he’s a geek, even if Chris say he is!’
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang writes:
> a) When should I put my order in for a Metroliner? Other than the obvious
> answer of "Now!" but when are they shipping?
Of course if you already have more than 2, the inclination to purchase a
Legend set is greatly diminished....that being said, I will still do what
most of you guys are doing and order the deluxe kit and an extra club car.
I think a train set is too (insanely) long at 10 cars....so I might just have
2 seperate trains (one train with 10 cars, and the other with 4).
> b) I was at McDonalds today with said coworker and they have Bionicle happy
> meals now. However, they very much appear to suck. I've never really been
> a fan of Bionicle or for that matter Lego Racers, RoboRiders or Throwbots,
> but these are even worse! They don't even LOOK like Lego :)
They might not have any clear purpose but they certainly look real cute!!!
Besides, look at all those discs...
well you are right Bionicle is just another step away from the traditional
brick.
Benjamin Medinets
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang writes:
> a) When should I put my order in for a Metroliner? Other than the obvious
> answer of "Now!" but when are they shipping?
I think if you already have more than 2 (4558) metroliner sets, the
propensity to purchase the Legend metroliner set greatly diminished.... that
being
said, I still plan on buying one legend deluxe kit, and another club car.
Club car to finish my ultraliner.
>
> b) I was at McDonalds today with said coworker and they have Bionicle happy
> meals now. However, they very much appear to suck. I've never really been
> a fan of Bionicle or for that matter Lego Racers, RoboRiders or Throwbots,
> but these are even worse! They don't even LOOK like Lego :)
It is just Lego's way of getting away from the traditional moulded brick!!!
Oh Well!!! the sets maynot be terribly useful, but I think they look pretty
cute!!
Benjamin Medinets
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"Benjamin Medinets" <bmedinets@excite.com> wrote in message
news:GJI04J.4z1@lugnet.com...
> It is just Lego's way of getting away from the traditional moulded • brick!!!
> Oh Well!!! the sets maynot be terribly useful, but I think they look • pretty
> cute!!
"Cute" is Ka-On's chubby black dragon (CBD).
"Cute" is not Bionicle. :)
Iain
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Iain Hendry writes:
> "Benjamin Medinets" <bmedinets@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:GJI04J.4z1@lugnet.com...
>
> > It is just Lego's way of getting away from the traditional moulded • brick!!!
> > Oh Well!!! the sets maynot be terribly useful, but I think they look • pretty
> > cute!!
>
> "Cute" is Ka-On's chubby black dragon (CBD).
>
> "Cute" is not Bionicle. :)
>
> Iain
I still think the Bionicle toys, especially from McDonald's are cute....
regardless what you say!!!! I do agree that Ka-On's creation was not only
very cool, but also extremely nicely designed.
Benjamin Medinets
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Iain Hendry writes:
> "Benjamin Medinets" <bmedinets@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:GJI04J.4z1@lugnet.com...
>
> > It is just Lego's way of getting away from the traditional moulded • brick!!!
> > Oh Well!!! the sets maynot be terribly useful, but I think they look • pretty
> > cute!!
>
> "Cute" is Ka-On's chubby black dragon (CBD).
>
> "Cute" is not Bionicle. :)
>
> Iain
Fair enough. Leave the Bionicle to those of use who find them useful, then. I
promise to leave the metroliners alone. Better a small, low cost technic set
with useful new parts than another overpriced old train with the same useless
parts anyway.
-Dave
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"Dave Johann" <legomecha@home.com> wrote in message
news:GJJpnH.Lvu@lugnet.com...
> Fair enough. Leave the Bionicle to those of use who find them useful, • then. I
> promise to leave the metroliners alone. Better a small, low cost technic • set
> with useful new parts than another overpriced old train with the same • useless
> parts anyway.
I guess I don't find custom-moulded parts useful or in upkeep with the LEGO
brand name. I can't recomend to any co-workers or adult friends with
children to "Go buy Technic, it will make your kid smart". Now I have to say
"Don't buy LEGO, it's gone to crap. Unless you can afford a $300 MindStorms
kit..." and most of them are unwilling to pay that much.
My favourite sets?
Technic Universal (1990-1995).
Nothing pleased me more than going in to Toys R Us and seeing box after box
with the beautiful, Arial font saying "Universal" on the front. Espically
when they had the lift-up flap. If it had the flap, you KNEW you were geting
an exciting set. Filled with familiar, comforting parts.
Not organic, horrid looking alien things.
Iain
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Richard Noeckel writes:
> In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang writes:
> > They don't even LOOK like Lego :)
> >
> > Calum
>
> Actually, I believe that was the intent of TLG...
> They wanted to break into the 'Action Figure' market.
> Anyway, I still like the design of Onua http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8532,
> and the various new Technic parts are always useful!
The unusual thing is that the Bionicle toys from McDonalds don't seem to
have ANY Technic parts from what I can see through the display case.
They're...REALLY UGLY. They don't look like Lego at all, unlike Bionicle,
which seems to have some Lego pieces in it...
...I might go to McDonalds today at lunch and buy one just to see what it's
all about.
Calum
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>
> Fair enough. Leave the Bionicle to those of use who find them useful, then. I
> promise to leave the metroliners alone. Better a small, low cost technic set
> with useful new parts than another overpriced old train with the same useless
> parts anyway.
>
> -Dave
Overpriced Train set??? Useless parts....Whoa....back the truck up.
I don't see the big craze with Bionical, and if you are big into lego mecha,
I would find that the TOA sets and the LOM mecha sets are pretty good.
I wouldn't associate the smaller "village leader" sets or the McDonald's
promo sets, as useful as you would allude to....that being said, I
still stick with the idea that the aliens that Iain finds so offensive, do
have some nice qualities....
imagine this image one or two of these "creatures" playing on the beach
throwing the "frisbee" to eachother...it is a very endeering image.
Personally, I find the set very soothing to play with. Light Grey is such
a relaxing color, the train going around a round loop is very catatonic....
Benjamin Medinets
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Iain Hendry writes:
> Nothing pleased me more than going in to Toys R Us and seeing box after box
> with the beautiful, Arial font saying "Universal" on the front. Espically
> when they had the lift-up flap. If it had the flap, you KNEW you were geting
> an exciting set. Filled with familiar, comforting parts.
>
> Not organic, horrid looking alien things.
A question I've long pondered (well, okay, not really THAT long.) is that
perhaps we think all these new sets aren't great because we got used to not
necessarily better but different sets. Like large A frame cars (Lincolns,
Cadillacs etc) were "normal" and "familiar" to your average American driver
about 30 years ago. Wood panelling and chrome trim excess. When the oil
crisis hit the 70's, small imports started to come into North America. What
we consider a normal car today (like a Honda Civic or a Toyota Echo) is
probably not normal. Sooner or later, most of those people who liked large
cars literally have died off-GM has stopped production of several of these
platforms and brands specifically for this reason. I choose this example
because it seems to be the exact opposite-I don't think anyone in Generation
X or Generation Y for that matter particularily cares for old large cars.
Perhaps one day there won't be people who remember or care for those great
sets we liked so much? Maybe people who get into Lego now will think
Bionicle is "normal" for them. Maybe we're wrong to think what's normal for
us is normal for anyone else? :)
Calum
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Benjamin Medinets writes:
> >
> > Fair enough. Leave the Bionicle to those of use who find them useful, then. I
> > promise to leave the metroliners alone. Better a small, low cost technic set
> > with useful new parts than another overpriced old train with the same useless
> > parts anyway.
> >
> > -Dave
>
> Overpriced Train set??? Useless parts....Whoa....back the truck up.
>
> I don't see the big craze with Bionical, and if you are big into lego mecha,
> I would find that the TOA sets and the LOM mecha sets are pretty good.
> I wouldn't associate the smaller "village leader" sets or the McDonald's
> promo sets, as useful as you would allude to....that being said, I
> still stick with the idea that the aliens that Iain finds so offensive, do
> have some nice qualities....
> imagine this image one or two of these "creatures" playing on the beach
> throwing the "frisbee" to eachother...it is a very endeering image.
>
> Personally, I find the set very soothing to play with. Light Grey is such
> a relaxing color, the train going around a round loop is very catatonic....
>
> Benjamin Medinets
Perhaps I should explain what I meant by overpriced train set. I have yet to see
a train set priced in the $25-$30 range that was 'ready to go'. I've rarely
purchased any set that retails for more than $50 based on the principle that no
toy should cost that much. Last time I checked, I could probably piece together
a working train set for around $70, but it would be a bare bones set at best.
Let's try the same price range for the Bionicle sets. The McDonalds sets have
some useful Technic parts for less than $1. The Turuga sets can sat the same
thing for $3. The Toa are immensely useful (articulation-wise) at $7. The two
Rahi sets that retail for less than $40 are less useful, but still provide a
significant number of technic beams. The larger sets are slightly overpriced,
but they have a 'coolness' factor that appeals to today's children, so I guess
that is the trade-off.
I fully agree that light grey is a soothing color, but I'd prefer that the parts
weren't so train-centric so they could be used in other ways. I have yet to see
MOCs that use train parts in creative non-train ways. Rail is rail, or so the
train builders make us believe. Technic is anything you want it to be. I'll take
a bad Technic set over a good train set anyday.
-Dave
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Iain Hendry writes:
> "Dave Johann" <legomecha@home.com> wrote in message
> news:GJJpnH.Lvu@lugnet.com...
>
> > Fair enough. Leave the Bionicle to those of use who find them useful, • then. I
> > promise to leave the metroliners alone. Better a small, low cost technic • set
> > with useful new parts than another overpriced old train with the same • useless
> > parts anyway.
>
> I guess I don't find custom-moulded parts useful or in upkeep with the LEGO
> brand name. I can't recomend to any co-workers or adult friends with
> children to "Go buy Technic, it will make your kid smart". Now I have to say
> "Don't buy LEGO, it's gone to crap. Unless you can afford a $300 MindStorms
> kit..." and most of them are unwilling to pay that much.
>
> My favourite sets?
>
> Technic Universal (1990-1995).
>
> Nothing pleased me more than going in to Toys R Us and seeing box after box
> with the beautiful, Arial font saying "Universal" on the front. Espically
> when they had the lift-up flap. If it had the flap, you KNEW you were geting
> an exciting set. Filled with familiar, comforting parts.
>
> Not organic, horrid looking alien things.
>
> Iain
Agreed. The highlight of Technic were the Universal sets, but they aren't made
anymore so we need to deal with that. Using the new Technic parts to the best of
our ability might not be as relaxing as building with the older stuff, but I
personally would prefer to 'push the envelope' anyway. Using new parts allows us
to create new things rather than re-hashing the same old ideas over and over.
Technic originally drove me away because only cars, planes, and trucks were the
only sets offered. What I would have given for a Space Shuttle back in '90! I
don't think I would have had a dark ages if cool things like that existed back
then. Heck, even the 8446 Crane Truck from a couple of years back would have
been enough. Cool parts, a great main model...what more can you ask for?
-Dave
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang writes:
> In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Richard Noeckel writes:
> > In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang writes:
> > > They don't even LOOK like Lego :)
> > >
> > > Calum
> >
> > Actually, I believe that was the intent of TLG...
> > They wanted to break into the 'Action Figure' market.
> > Anyway, I still like the design of Onua http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8532,
> > and the various new Technic parts are always useful!
>
> The unusual thing is that the Bionicle toys from McDonalds don't seem to
> have ANY Technic parts from what I can see through the display case.
> They're...REALLY UGLY. They don't look like Lego at all, unlike Bionicle,
> which seems to have some Lego pieces in it...
>
> ...I might go to McDonalds today at lunch and buy one just to see what it's
> all about.
>
> Calum
I was actually not planning to get these until I saw the cutaway view on the
instructions. I love that middle torso part more than the others, but I'll find
uses for everything eventually...
-Dave
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