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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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In lugnet.build.vignette, Nelson Yrizarry wrote:

   And you still have over one month to enter another vignette! Good Luck!

“Big Daddy” Nelson

Well, I’ll jump in and agree with Chris and Janey.

‘Big Daddy’, you’re reply was not very considerate. You could have moderated the tone of your reply just a little. Did you canvas the curators of the .vignette group before posting? Or did you assume that everyone would agree with your attitude?

Certainly, you’ve alienated me enough that I will not be entering this contest - and probably any other contest with which you are involved.

BTW, your comment about entering ‘another’ vignette seems to be somewhat inaccurate - I don’t see anywhere on the rules page for the 2nd annual contest that would prohibit the entry from being re-submitted with the correct head. Maybe you could make this clear, if there is a reason the vignette isn’t eligible?

Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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   Well, I’ll jump in and agree with Chris and Janey.

‘Big Daddy’, you’re reply was not very considerate. You could have moderated the tone of your reply just a little. Did you canvas the curators of the .vignette group before posting? Or did you assume that everyone would agree with your attitude?

Certainly, you’ve alienated me enough that I will not be entering this contest - and probably any other contest with which you are involved.

BTW, your comment about entering ‘another’ vignette seems to be somewhat inaccurate - I don’t see anywhere on the rules page for the 2nd annual contest that would prohibit the entry from being re-submitted with the correct head. Maybe you could make this clear, if there is a reason the vignette isn’t eligible?

Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115

It is always hard to get one’s message and tone across in a written medium. I did not find Nelson’s message inconsiderate, or perceived him as having an attitude - it was simply a direct and honest answer. As I stated earlier, in the end I am happy that he knows where to draw the line, making the contest much more enjoyable for everyone.

I have received an e-mail from him and Nathan enabling me to re-enter this later on with the proper head, should I want to. No need to dig any deeper than that :-)

Linus


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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Tue, 13 Jun 2006 06:47:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Paul Sinasohn wrote:
   Well, I’ll jump in and agree with Chris and Janey.

‘Big Daddy’, you’re reply was not very considerate. You could have moderated the tone of your reply just a little. Did you canvas the curators of the .vignette group before posting? Or did you assume that everyone would agree with your attitude?

Hello, Paul. Thank you for your opinion. For the record, Nathan and I were in complete agreement prior to my reply to Linus.


   Certainly, you’ve alienated me enough that I will not be entering this contest - and probably any other contest with which you are involved.

We are very sorry to hear that. Your response seems to be a very personal attack on me, but that is your perogative.
If you wish to enter our Second Joe Vig Contest, you are still very welcome to do so.


   BTW, your comment about entering ‘another’ vignette seems to be somewhat inaccurate - I don’t see anywhere on the rules page for the 2nd annual contest that would prohibit the entry from being re-submitted with the correct head. Maybe you could make this clear, if there is a reason the vignette isn’t eligible?

You are absolutely correct on this. We have since emailed Linus Bohman regarding, and if he wishes to resubmit his entry, with the proper ‘Joe Vig’ minifig build, as clearly defined in the Contest Rules, then we will accept his entry.

KUDOS to LUGNET member John Neal, for volunteering to assist Linus.

“Big Daddy” Nelson


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:27:58 GMT
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Hey all,

I’m confused as to the “debate” here. This seems a perfect example of community. Two community members sponsored a contest to encourage building and donated the prizes (including the first prize as a $50 set). Another community member was inspired by this to build a great MOC. When it was pointed out that this didn’t comply to the rules, that member was gracious in agreeing to the judges’ decision. Still another member donated an element to make the entry compliant -- the true “community” solution. This is all about a gracious and friendly community.

I’m only kicking myself that I didn’t think of sending a head myself.

Bruce


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
Hey all,

I'm confused as to the "debate" here.  This seems a perfect example of
community.  Two community members sponsored a contest to encourage building
and donated the prizes (including the first prize as a $50 set).  Another
community member was inspired by this to build a great MOC.  When it was
pointed out that this didn't comply to the rules, that member was gracious in
agreeing to the judges' decision.  Still another member donated an element to
make the entry compliant -- the true "community" solution.  This is all about
a gracious and friendly community.

Yes. There is a warm and embracing community here, or what's left of one, and it
acted the way we all have seen it act in the past, warmly, as you describe
above. The part you missed though, is that there is also a much less warm and
embracing community here too.

If these terms confuse you, take a good look at
http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=1285 and decide if what is written there
is sincere, or mocking. (and think about what it says about the LEGO ambassador
program that they'd not notice that in their selection process)

Then look at http://news.lugnet.com/build/vignette/?n=778 and decide if that
entry is made sincerely or to try to stir up controversy.

Then if you still have any doubt, look at http://www.lugnet.com/~1285/CTOPs and
try to count who was mocked how many times... Just for giggles, see
http://news.lugnet.com/loc/au/?n=13881 and think about the name choice of the
ship.

There's plenty more where that came from, you just have to keep your eyes open.

Hope that helps.


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:05:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Then look at http://news.lugnet.com/build/vignette/?n=778 and decide if that
entry is made sincerely or to try to stir up controversy.

It's a joke, Larry. Or am I the only one that thinks this whole 'discussion' is
hilariously absurd?

Allister


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
Yes. There is a warm and embracing community here, or what's left of one, and it
acted the way we all have seen it act in the past, warmly, as you describe
above. The part you missed though, is that there is also a much less warm and
embracing community here too.

If these terms confuse you, take a good look at
http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=1285 and decide if what is written there
is sincere, or mocking. (and think about what it says about the LEGO ambassador
program that they'd not notice that in their selection process)

Then look at http://news.lugnet.com/build/vignette/?n=778 and decide if that
entry is made sincerely or to try to stir up controversy.

Then if you still have any doubt, look at http://www.lugnet.com/~1285/CTOPs and
try to count who was mocked how many times... Just for giggles, see
http://news.lugnet.com/loc/au/?n=13881 and think about the name choice of the
ship.

The Seatop is a brig, as I specified in my post, not a ship. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig for further details.

Cheers

Richie Dulin


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:09:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Then look at http://news.lugnet.com/build/vignette/?n=778 and decide if that
entry is made sincerely or to try to stir up controversy.




C'mon Larry, this is good..:-) Made me smile, and even giggle..more than
once..:-)



Selçuk


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Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
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Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:53:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

If these terms confuse you, take a good look at
http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=1285 and decide if what is written there
is sincere, or mocking. (and think about what it says about the LEGO ambassador
program that they'd not notice that in their selection process)

Then look at http://news.lugnet.com/build/vignette/?n=778 and decide if that
entry is made sincerely or to try to stir up controversy.

Then if you still have any doubt, look at http://www.lugnet.com/~1285/CTOPs and
try to count who was mocked how many times... Just for giggles, see
http://news.lugnet.com/loc/au/?n=13881 and think about the name choice of the
ship.

There's plenty more where that came from, you just have to keep your eyes open.

LMAO!!! Thanks for bringing those to my attention, Larry! They truly made my day
- I haven't laughed so much for ages! That Richie guy is a riot!! I managed to
find the Joe Vig entry myself though, and liked it so much I spotlighted it, so
the rest of the warm (and not-so-warm) embracing community could share in it's
delights!

ROSCO

PS: What happened to ++Lar?????


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