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In lugnet.loc.uk, Huw Millington writes:
> I believe I have sorted all the Netscape anomalies, except for one - URLS
> can't contain spaces, which I'll fix tomorrow.
>
> Please LMK if it looks OK for you now.
It looks really spiffy! I *really* like the random set idea! The hitbox add is
submerged at the bottom of my window though (Netscape 4.6), ie - the bottom is
going off the bottom of the screen.
I'm curious though why it duplicates a lot of the pause database - is there a
reason or is it for the fun of it? (A valid reason as any!)
Or is it to show the alternate design interface, which works really well btw!
Oh, the new city highway set (6600) number conflicts with an earlier town set -
I was wondering why you had instructions for it already!
Richard
PS. Are you going to include set 666 - "Burp Adventure"? :)
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Richard Franks wrote:
> I'm curious though why it duplicates a lot of the pause database - is there a
> reason or is it for the fun of it? (A valid reason as any!)
> Or is it to show the alternate design interface, which works really well btw!
Yes, I was wondering that myself... when I looked at it earlier today,
all it showed was the picture. The other stuff Lugnet shows is important
as well. (especially MSRP!!! <GD&R>)
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NOTE: Soon to be lpieniazek@tsisoft.com :-)
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> writes:
> Richard Franks wrote:
> > I'm curious though why it duplicates a lot of the pause database - is
> > there a reason or is it for the fun of it? (A valid reason as any!)
> > Or is it to show the alternate design interface, which works really
> > well btw!
>
> Yes, I was wondering that myself...
Huw and Grahame are both very welcome to become admins of the Lugnet/Pause
sets database if they think they'd enjoy that. Four people currently have
admin priv's to the DB (me, Suzanne, Joshua Delahunty, and Selçuk Göre) but
we can always use more qualified help.
> when I looked at it earlier today,
> all it showed was the picture. The other stuff Lugnet shows is important
> as well. (especially MSRP!!! <GD&R>)
It's certainly OK with me if Huw wants to grab the MSRP data out of the set
listings <http://www.lugnet.com/pause/lists.html>.
--Todd
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Richard Franks <spontificus@__nospam__yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:FM4xFv.LAw@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.loc.uk, Huw Millington writes:
> > I believe I have sorted all the Netscape anomalies, except for one - URLS
> > can't contain spaces, which I'll fix tomorrow.
> >
> > Please LMK if it looks OK for you now.
>
> It looks really spiffy! I *really* like the random set idea! The hitbox • add is
> submerged at the bottom of my window though (Netscape 4.6), ie - the • bottom is
> going off the bottom of the screen.
I think it only appears if you run at 1024x768 currently. It sounds like you
are running 800x600.
>
> I'm curious though why it duplicates a lot of the pause database - is • there a
> reason or is it for the fun of it? (A valid reason as any!)
> Or is it to show the alternate design interface, which works really well
btw!
'Because I can' :-) Just for the hell of it, really. While I respect Pause
as an information source, I don't find the interface to my liking. A lot of
people say they like the thubnailed list presentation, which Pause does not
offer. Also another design goal was to have high quality scans of
instruction covers for all the images - some of the Pause ones are from
catalogues, which I don't like. About 95% of non-promotional sets have been
scanned by myself or Grahame from paper copies we own, or taken fron
Brickshelf.
>
> Oh, the new city highway set (6600) number conflicts with an earlier town • set -
> I was wondering why you had instructions for it already!
Oops. I'll corect that.
Huw
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message
news:38472E8F.406917B4@voyager.net...
> Richard Franks wrote:
>
> > I'm curious though why it duplicates a lot of the pause database - is • there a
> > reason or is it for the fun of it? (A valid reason as any!)
> > Or is it to show the alternate design interface, which works really well • btw!
>
> Yes, I was wondering that myself... when I looked at it earlier today,
> all it showed was the picture. The other stuff Lugnet shows is important
> as well. (especially MSRP!!! <GD&R>)
The information should be considered a second opinion, rather than a
duplication of Pause. Most of the data has been compiled by Grahame Reid
over many years from many sources, of which I'm sure Pause is one.
Huw
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> Huw and Grahame are both very welcome to become admins of the Lugnet/Pause
> sets database if they think they'd enjoy that. Four people currently have
> admin priv's to the DB (me, Suzanne, Joshua Delahunty, and Selçuk Göre) • but
> we can always use more qualified help.
Thanks for the offer. I'll let Grahame take you up on that if he wants to -
he's the brains behind the data - I concentrate on the interface and techie
bits :-)
> It's certainly OK with me if Huw wants to grab the MSRP data out of the • set
> listings <http://www.lugnet.com/pause/lists.html>.
Thanks, I will almost certainly do that.
Huw
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In lugnet.loc.uk, "Huw Millington" <hmillington@cix.co.uk> writes:
> Richard Franks <spontificus@__nospam__yahoo.com> wrote in message...
> > I'm curious though why it duplicates a lot of the pause database - is
> > there a reason or is it for the fun of it? (A valid reason as any!)
> > Or is it to show the alternate design interface, which works really well
> > btw!
>
> 'Because I can' :-) Just for the hell of it, really. While I respect Pause
> as an information source, I don't find the interface to my liking.
Me neither -- it's just a placeholder...but it's getting kind of stale, as
you point out. :-)
> A lot of people say they like the thubnailed list presentation, which Pause
> does not offer.
Wow, I didn't know that thumbnails were such a desired feature! When
someone goes through all the trouble of implementing something like that in
another form, it's a pretty strong sign that it's a desired feature. :-)
Kudos to Huw for doing the right thing (giving people features they want),
and my apologies to everyone for not having enabled thumbnail displays in
the Pause DB earlier...here it is with thumbnails, but it's still with the
same old boxy format -- nowhere near as pretty as Huw's new display:
http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=TECHNIC
http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=Fabuland
> Also another design goal was to have high quality scans of
> instruction covers for all the images - some of the Pause ones are from
> catalogues, which I don't like.
I never liked that much either, but I thought what Lou did was still
incredibly amazing! Blows me away even today, when I think about it:
I'd always been hoping someday to scan all the sets in high-res and high-
quality in the Fibblesnork LEGO Guide format, and Lou just went ahead and
scanned catalogs -- which are infinitely better than nothing at all.
> About 95% of non-promotional sets have been
> scanned by myself or Grahame from paper copies we own, or taken fron
> Brickshelf.
Whew! -- That's awesome! I remember what it's like to scan a lot of sets
and how crazy and time consuming it can get. :-) One day back in 1996,
I scanned 200 Space and......man.......it must've taken me 20 hours straight
one weekend with a 12-pack of Coke and no sleep. Then, the next day, I went
back for more punishment and scanned the Aquazone sets (but there weren't
many at the time). MargoK and PaulV also scanned a zillion Castle sets too
for the FLG... Ahh, memories. :-)
--Todd
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Todd Lehman writes:
> Kudos to Huw for doing the right thing (giving people features they want),
> and my apologies to everyone for not having enabled thumbnail displays in
> the Pause DB earlier...here it is with thumbnails, but it's still with the
> same old boxy format -- nowhere near as pretty as Huw's new display:
Are you going to update the Pause Database in the near future - I know it's
time consuming - especially the service packs in the 5xxx range, they have
entires but the uploaded pictures of them which I know have been submitted
haven't made their way to the web yet. It would be really useful to have those
entered as they appear no-one else on the Internet.
Thanks.
Carbon 60
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Simon Denscombe writes:
> Are you going to update the Pause Database in the near future -
On the average, it's actually updated several times per day, statistically...
but it depends on which area...
> I know it's
> time consuming - especially the service packs in the 5xxx range, they have
> entires but the uploaded pictures of them which I know have been submitted
> haven't made their way to the web yet. It would be really useful to have
> those entered as they appear no-one else on the Internet.
Did you send pictures for that? They might be sitting in my inbox -- I'm
backlogged. Or they might be in one of the incoming ftp folders.
One of the reasons I haven't been stuffing every image in right away (some,
but not all) is because it's a better use of time to get the memberships
thing tied in with the DB first, because then people can submit changes and
new images in a much more convenient format for both the sender and the
receiver...
(Would you like to add any images directly into the DB yourself? :-)
--Todd
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> http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=Fabuland
That's better. It makes it slower to load, but worthwhile, I think.
> Whew! -- That's awesome! I remember what it's like to scan a lot of sets
> and how crazy and time consuming it can get. :-) One day back in 1996,
> I scanned 200 Space and......man.......it must've taken me 20 hours • straight
> one weekend with a 12-pack of Coke and no sleep.
I did trains, Technic, AZ and Space, but not all in one hit. Grahame did
pirates, castle and town. The only large gap in our jount collection (albeit
1000's of miles apart!) is in early Town sets.
Huw
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"Huw and Grahame's LEGO set database" has now officially become BrickSet.
This is an alternative to Pause and should be considered as a second-opinion
rather than a duplication of information due to the fact the database has
been independently compiled by Grahame Reid.
The UI has been considerably enhanced and can now be found at its new
easy-to-remember URL www.brickset.co.uk
The database contains some 1500 sets, most with high-quality scans of
instruction covers or box fronts, and covers all commonly-collected themes
as well as being the premier guide to promotional sets. In time, its scope
will increase to become as comprehensive as Pause.
The interface is likely to be tweaked over the next few weeks, as I get
feedback from users of different browsers and platforms. It uses
technologies new to me (for example CSS) and while I have tested it on IE5
and NN 4.6, I welcome feedback from users of other systems.
Huw
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Huw Millington writes:
> "Huw and Grahame's LEGO set database" has now officially become BrickSet.
> This is an alternative to Pause and should be considered as a second-opinion
> rather than a duplication of information due to the fact the database has
> been independently compiled by Grahame Reid.
>
> The UI has been considerably enhanced and can now be found at its new
> easy-to-remember URL www.brickset.co.uk
>
> The database contains some 1500 sets, most with high-quality scans of
> instruction covers or box fronts, and covers all commonly-collected themes
> as well as being the premier guide to promotional sets. In time, its scope
> will increase to become as comprehensive as Pause.
>
> The interface is likely to be tweaked over the next few weeks, as I get
> feedback from users of different browsers and platforms. It uses
> technologies new to me (for example CSS) and while I have tested it on IE5
> and NN 4.6, I welcome feedback from users of other systems.
>
> Huw
Random set feature!!!What fun!
Thanks,
Julie
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