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Tobbe Arnesson wrote:
> LEGO Company has taken similar legal action against the Biltema divisions • in
> Denmark, Sweden and Finland.
Great! I've seen the "copies", they look awful. The colours bleak and looks
sick and
the individual fit of the pieces seems to be far out. If I tried to lift one
of the models
I am sure it would totally collapse.
> In December last year LEGO Company won a lawsuit at The Beijing High • People's
> Court against the Chinese producer of the Coko products. The court stated • that
> Coko had to hand over the moulds to the court for destruction. The company • also
> had to publish an official apology in a national newspaper and pay • compensation
> to LEGO Company. "
One can but wonder if those moulds really were destroyed or if the company
owner
just gave them to his nephew to continue the production. Maybe they already
had
produced so many pieces they felt the need to sell the sets to some less
knowing
company. No wonder Biltema came along. Since Sweden is so far from Denmark
I presume they thought it safe to sell the sets here in Scandinavia. Silly
sods. :)
All give praise to the real Brick! ;)
// Anton
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http://www.lego.com/eng/info/press/morepress.asp?RegionalSiteId=11&id=863
"October 1 2003
LEGO Company wins Norwegian lawsuit
LEGO Company has just won a lawsuit against the sales company Biltema at the
Norwegian court Drammen Tingrett. The lawsuit involves Biltema’s sale and
marketing of Coko products – clear imitations of LEGO products. The court’s
decision prohibits Biltema Norway from sale and marketing of these products and
Biltema must pay both compensation as well as the lawsuit costs to LEGO Company.
The court states that both the Coko bricks and the individual Coko building sets
can be mistaken for LEGO bricks and building sets. Furthermore, the court states
that Biltema deliberately has used this possibility of product confusion for
marketing purposes.
Henrik G. Jakobsen from LEGO Company’s Legal Department says: ”We are very
pleased with the court’s decision. It is a very important result for us in our
efforts at opposing imitation products, which can confuse the consumers.”
LEGO Company has taken similar legal action against the Biltema divisions in
Denmark, Sweden and Finland.
In December last year LEGO Company won a lawsuit at The Beijing High People’s
Court against the Chinese producer of the Coko products. The court stated that
Coko had to hand over the moulds to the court for destruction. The company also
had to publish an official apology in a national newspaper and pay compensation
to LEGO Company. "
Mvh,
/Tobbe
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Självklart är våra grannländer välkomna!
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Hej alla glada!
Så var det äntligen dags för SweLUG #5!
Inbjudan: http://news.lugnet.com/loc/se/traff_031031_inbjudan
Det är med 90% säkerhet klart att vi får låna biosalongen gratis[1] under
allahelgonahelgen. Viss reservation för att lokalen ska få hyresgäster. Skulle
så ske får vi låna en mindre butikslokal i samma hus istället.
Biosalongen är så funtad att man kan gå mellan den och min lägenhet utan att
behöva sätta en fot utomhus. Största nackdelen med lokalen är att golvet är
sluttande/i form av en väldigt utdragen trappa. Men det ska nog funka ändå, för
exempelvis ULV är det en fördel.
Svara på denna tråd om du har frågor om träffen men även om du vill komma eller
vet redan nu att du kommer!
/Tobbe
1. Jag får betala för el och om vi vill ha lokalen uppvärmd under helgen, till
självkostnadspris alltså.
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In lugnet.loc.be, Matthias Jaenichen writes:
>
> "ludo soete" <ludo.soete@village.uunet.be> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:HBE4CE.71F@lugnet.com...
> > In lugnet.loc.be, Paul Koelewijn writes: • <SNIP>
>
> > Hallo Paul,
> >
> > Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
> > van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
> > ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
> > zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
> > zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.
>
> I am not quite sure if everyone here is able to read Dutch?!!!
Hi Matthias,
Sorry for this inconvinience. I should have responded only to the Dutch
(lugnet.loc.nl) instead of all those country's.
Regards,
Ludo
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> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
> > > members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
> > > and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
> > > event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.
> > >
> > > We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
> > > groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
> > > user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
> > > of LEGO user groups.
> >
> > <Knip>
> >
> > Hallo Paul,
> >
> > Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
> > van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
> > ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
> > zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
> > zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.
>
> I am not quite sure if everyone here is able to read Dutch?!!!
Hi Matthias,
..and a babelfisch translation from Dutch to English would not help much.. :-)
Herewith Ludo's story translated:
/start/
Hi Paul,
Thanks for this proposition. We, some Vlamingen (=people from the Dutch
speeking part of Belgium *khm) intend also to start a Club, if possible.
Every bit of help from experienced guys from De Bouwsteen is welcome! Our first
meeting is at my place on 12.04.2003. Result of the meeting?... W'll see.
/end/
Klaas H. Meijaard
Hé Ludo! Veel succes! We zijn benieuwd naar jullie bevindingen!
/transl:/ Good luck! :-)
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"ludo soete" <ludo.soete@village.uunet.be> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:HBE4CE.71F@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.loc.be, Paul Koelewijn writes:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
> > members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
> > and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
> > event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.
> >
> > We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
> > groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
> > user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
> > of LEGO user groups.
>
> <Knip>
>
> Hallo Paul,
>
> Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
> van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
> ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
> zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
> zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.
I am not quite sure if everyone here is able to read Dutch?!!!
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In lugnet.loc.be, Paul Koelewijn writes:
> Hello everybody,
>
> De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
> members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
> and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
> event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.
>
> We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
> groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
> user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
> of LEGO user groups.
<Knip>
Hallo Paul,
Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.
Groetjes uit West Vlaanderen,
Ludo
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Hello everybody,
De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.
We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
of LEGO user groups.
The purpose of this European Federation of LEGO user groups is to
exchange information about the organization of the different LEGO user
groups, the organization of events, as well small events as big events
like LEGO world, and also to synchronize agenda's to minimize the
overlap of events in different countries.
Another advantage of an European Federation of LEGO users group is that
it will be easier to communicate with LEGO and that white gaps are being
identified.
If you would like to discuss about the possibiliteis of an European
Federation of LEGO user groups, please contact me, Paul Koelewijn.
Hasta LuEGO,
Paul Koelewijn
President 'De Bouwsteen'
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FreeLUG : a new LEGO association in FRANCE
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Bonjour a tous
(english part after fench).
Je me permet d'utiliser le Cross Post pour vous annonce
la creation d'une association regroupant les passionnes
de LEGO en France.
Les statuts ont ete depose la semaine derniere sous
le nom de FreeLUG (French Enthusiast Lego User Group).
Le but de cette association est evidement de parler
LEGO, de se rencontrer, de faciliter les echanges
entre francophones de tous pays.
Pour nous retrouver :
http://www.freelug.org
Un canal de discussion en francais a egalement ete
creer sur IRC. #freelug sur irc.freelug.org
Il est egalement disponible via interface web :
http://www.freelug.info/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
Pour plus de renseignement, n'hesitez pas a me
contacter a l'adresse : contact@freelug.org
En esperant vous lire, voir prochainement.
Gael
===
I' using the X-post to announce the creation of a
LEGO association in France.
FreeLUG stands for French Enthusiast Lego User Group.
The goal of this group is of course to talk about LEGO,
to meet each other, to facilitate exchanges between
french speackers from all over the world. Of course
english speackers are also welcome :)
To find us, please visit :
http://www.freelug.org
A french speaking IRC channel has also been created for
the association: #freelug on irc.freelug.org
It can also be accessed by a web interface:
http://www.freelug.info/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
If you want more information, please contact us at
contact@freelug.org.
Hope to see you soon.
Gael
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Any plans for Billund summer '03?
Me and my daughter will probably go there. No date set yet, so we might
coordinate with your plans? An international Lugnet meet there would be cool.
/Tore
Halva min bil lär vara tom så om någon vill åka med, går det bra!
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Hello all,
The rest of the European prices for LEGO Legend set #10041 (remake of set
#6390 - Main Street) just appeared on Shop at Home: EURO 69.99,
Denmark: DKK 49.95, Sweden: SEK 639.00, Switzerland: CHF 109.90
It also states that the set will ship by 22 Jan 2003, almost a month earlier
than in North America.
With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.
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Hello all,
I've spotted the LEGO Legend set #10041 (remake of set #6390 - Main Street)
in the new UK 2003 Shop at Home catalog, price £49,99 (British Pounds). This
confirms the set will be available for European Shop at Home customers also.
We might also be first again, for the European release date the catalog
said: "Not available to ship until end of January 2003"
With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.
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Hi!
I'm hosting a LEGO fest in Ludvika, Sweden.
When?
Start Friday the 13th of December
End Sunday the 15th of December
If you only can make it one day, aim for Saturday.
Where?
Dalecarlia, Ludvika, Sweden. Smallish town next to Borlänge. 2h drive from
Stockholm.
If you're attending or curios I'll give you a closer description via e-mail.
What?
- Friday 13th models, all categories. Scary, superstitious, or what ever you
want to bring!
- Access to my +30k collection to build with during the event.
- Competition, who can build the ultimate LEGO Vehicle?
Heavily inspired by The Reverend Powell Smith:
http://news.lugnet.com/announce/moc/?n=494
I have the course and the bricks. Rules and info will be given once On Site.
- Open discussion about forming a SELUG/SweLUG or perhaps a joint LUG over
Scandinavia.
- Combustion stress test on some 350 clone bricks. Heavy smoke development and
intense fire, test to be done outside of city :)
- In case of few attendees we'll cook in house, lot's of restaurants in the
proximity though. Two places serve breakfast or it will be supplied in house.
- Shopping trip to neighbour city Borlänge and Barnens Hus (some 30 min with
car), plus a visit to the local toy shop.
- If anyone want's to bring their train/s, please do! I'm eager to see some in
person before deciding to buy.
- Contest; Build a bridge. The bridge will be supported by two objects with a
1000 mm span. The bridge has to hold a tin can (chopped tomatoes, 400 gr) in
the middle. Build it at home and bring the pieces. No brick may be longer then
eight (8) studs and the can must be placed on the center of the bridge. The
bridge with the least amount of pieces wins! No glue :)
- Tower building, we'll build a crazy town with my bricks, the ceiling is the
limit.
- A local AFOL has access to several Robolab boxes he can bring if there's
enough interest.
Know anybody else who might be interested? Invite them too!
Contact:
Tobbe Arnesson
+46 70 831 00 11 (Cellphone)
tnt [at} lotek [dot] nu
Welcome!
Regards,
/Tobbe
http://www.lotek.nu
(remove SPAM when e-mailing)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> All,
>
> Just a quick note to let you know that we have finally been able to pull
> together the discount on bulk items for Europe and Asia!
>
> Now when you order bulk brick packs and/or items, you get a discount the
> more you buy:
>
> If you buy 5 bags of bulk bricks or plates you get 5% discount
> If you buy 10 bags of bulk bricks or plates you get 10% discount
> If you buy 15 or more bags of bulk bricks or plates you get 15% discount
>
> As you can see you only get a discount on *bulk bricks and plates*. You can
> get this discount in all our LEGO Direct Europe/Asia countries via Web and
> phone!
>
>
> Jake
That's great news! Just in time for the Holiday Season!
Regards,
Wessel
FUT lugnet.loc.nl lugnet.loc.be lugnet.loc.de lugnet.loc.it lugnet.loc.ie
lugnet.loc.fr lugnet.loc.es lugnet.loc.se lugnet.loc.uk lugnet.loc.at
lugnet.loc.dk lugnet.loc.fi (hope I got these right and didn't miss any...)
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LEGO®WORLD 2002,
Maybe you have already heard something about this, but here is the offical
announcement. From October 18 until October 22, The IJsselhallen in Zwolle, The
Netherlands will be once again be devoted to LEGO, as then probbaly Europes
biggest LEGO-event LEGO®WORLD 2002 will be held.
Last year, LEGO®WORLD 2001 was a big succes with over 27.500 visitors.
Unfortunately many people had to be disappointed, as it was to crowded to let
more people in. Therefore this year the event will be even larger then last
year. Not only will the event now last 5 days instead of 4, but more
importantly the floor size will be double as big as last year.
LEGO will show a lot of very nice things this year again and also the dutch
LEGO users group 'De Bouwsteen' (The Buildingbrick) will be present again. Last
year very many people were interested in our own creations. There were so many
people present in our area that it was even hard to walk around there.
Therefore we will have this year a much larger area to show all creations and
it seems to be very interesting what we will display.
What will be there to see:
Of course LEGO is present with a huge amount of nice things to see and of
course there are LEGO building contests. I don't know all the details of what
they will show but last year they had very nice things.
I can tell you more about what 'De Bouwsteen' will show, because I'm one of the
people organising the part of the event which will be filled in by De
Bouwsteen.
Trains.
This year there will be again a huge train layout with many trains and scenery.
The trains will go through mountains and over bridges. One of the bridges will
span a long distance without any kind support. A masterpiece of building
technique.
Miniland.
Connected to the train layout is Steendam. The Miniland city of the members of
De Bouwsteen. We asked all our members to build a city building on a 32x32
baseplate. With about 450 members, this will become one of the biggest LEGO
cities you have ever seen.
Trade and sale
Of course you have the possibility to buy new LEGO sets at the event, but there
will also be a possibility to buy second hand LEGO or try to trade your LEGO
with that of others.
Historical overview:
Whereas in the section of LEGO many of the newest sets will be displayed, De
Bouwsteen has an area where a lot of older LEGO sets will be displayed. Bring
back the memories of your childhood and look at the sets you always wanted to
see in realtiy
Own creations.
What is a LEGO users group without any own creations? Many of our members have
made beautiful models which they will show during LEGO WORLD. Enormous,
detailed buildings and cranes are only a few of the creations that will be
shown.
Demonstrations:
This is the time to find out what you can do with LEGO. Of course we will show
you how to work with Mindstorms. Also you can learn everything about LDraw to
build fantastic models in on the computer. Rather want to work with the real
bricks? Then look at the special techniques demonstrations where you can learn
a lot of tricks to make your models to look nicer.
Diner
On one or more evenings we will organize a diner for LEGO fans in a restaurant
nearby LEGO WORLD 2002. Here we have the opportunity to relax from the event
and talk to eachother about everything connected to LEGO.
Tickets
Tickets will be availble at the Intertoys toy stores in the Netherlands
starting August 26. For foreign people we'll try to find a solution so that
they can also buy there tickets in advance. We didn't find the perfect solution
yet, but we are working on it. For the time being, people interested in tickets
are adviced to contact me via e-mail.
Lodging
A large number of volunteers and exhibitors will stay in holiday park close to
Zwolle. If you are interested in joining us there, please contact me.
The organising comittee of the Bouwsteen consists of:
Sybrand Bonsma, Eric Brok, Erwin van Grinsvin, Jaco v/d Molen, Paul Wolters,
Hans Beuze, Mark v/d Horst, Rick Zonneveld and Peter van Es
Pictures and information:
Information (in Dutch) can be found on:
http://www.legoworld.nl
and
http://www.debouwsteen.com
Pictures of last years event:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=12149
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7664
On behalf of the Bouwsteen,
Sybrand Bonsma
e-mail: sbonsma@molphys.leidenuniv.nl
This message is posted in multiple newsgroups, follow-up is set to
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I just bought the following in France:
8458 Silver Champion 117.50 !!!
3739 Blacksmith Shop 39.99
6472 Gas N'Wash Express 55.50 !
3800 Ultimate Builders Set 60.90 !!
There is a difference of at least 110 Euros with the Netherlands!
The 8458 costs overthere 219 euros! So I had to act now...
3800 about 75 euros.
SW 2002 sets are cheaper in France. While the other SW sets are cheaper
in the Netherlands.
Trains are in the Netherlands a bit cheaper.
Guido
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"Duq" <duq@iegateway.net> writes:
>
> The biggest surprise came with the 8466. Everywhere it's 119/129, but in
> France only 88! That's a difference of 47%!!!
The 129EUR is approximately the price in shops here (800FF).
88EUR seems very cheap, maybe I should order before they
spot their mistake?
Jürgen
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Jürgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr>
http://www.loria.fr/~stuber/
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In lugnet.loc.eu, James Stacey writes:
> could they be running a converter on their exiasting prices - which are well
> documented as being different - untill they get everything straight ??
That's probably what they did, which is a shame because they could have
seized the opportunity to level the prices throughout the euro-zone.
> "Juergen Stuber" <stuber@loria.fr> wrote in message
> news:87zo3uuzke.fsf@loria.fr...
> >
> > I think it's probably decided on a per country basis,
> > taking into account local taxes, shipping costs and pricing habits
> > (.99 is much more common in Germany than France, for example).
Still that does not explain why a certain set has the same price in two
countries while another set differs as much as EUR 10,- in price in those
same two countries. Shipping costs are calculated seperately so should not
be of influence.
Wessel
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Wessel inspired me to do my own little survey. My pick was slightly
different; not so much the high end of the range, but across the themes and
prices (and more or less my own taste ;-). I found some strange stuff.......
My pick:
7191 Collector's X-wing
8466 4x4 Off-roader
9754 Darkside Developers Kit
3451 Sopwith Camel
4701 Sorting Hat (HP)
KT207 Large Engine with Tender
My countries: Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Germany, Ireland, France.
The sorting hat was the cheapest; EUR7,99 everywhere except France (7,60).
There was very little difference in the Camel; from 54,59(IRL) to 56,99(NL).
The train showed little difference (1 euro) except Ireland being cheap
(26,75 to an average 33,-)
More interesting was the DSDK; not available in Ireland, 95,25 in France and
119,- in the Netherlands. That's +25%!
A similar story for the X-wing; 185.06 in Ireland, 215,- in the Netherlands
(+16%)
The biggest surprise came with the 8466. Everywhere it's 119/129, but in
France only 88! That's a difference of 47%!!!
Other remarkable outcomes:
All sets are most expensive in the Netherlands.
No country has the lowest prices all-round.
For 7191 Ireland is by far the cheapest, France (and Holland) the most
expensive.
For 8466 it's reversed: France is cheapest, Ireland (and Holland) the most
expensive.
I converted US and Danish prices to Euro's (using today's rates from the
Universal Currency Converter) and found that the danish prices are 10%-15%
higher than the average.
In the US 7191 is dirt cheap (at EUR167,74 it's 19% below average) while
KT207 is quite expensive (at EUR39,13 it's 22% higher than average).
So far my EUR0.02.....
I've sent dutch Customer Service an email asking for an explanation. Soon as
I get an answer it'll be here.
I'll put all the figures (long live Excell) on my site (www.briqs.tmfweb.nl)
this weekend. I might put in more sets and countries if I feel inspired....
Duq
Wessel Burgers <wessel_b@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GpEtBq.KA6@lugnet.com...
> After the introduction of the new European currency three days ago, I was
> very curious about what would happen to S@H's prices in the euro-zone. • What
> now follows are my findings (which are by no means scientific - it just
> illustrates how weird their current pricing policy is)
>
> I picked five sets which were in the upper priceclass, and compared them
> across the countries in the euro-zone. The sets I picked were:
>
> 10000 Guarded Inn
> 10001 Metroliner
> 100019 ebel Blockade Runner
> 6290 Red Beard Runner
> 6291 Armada Flagship
>
> The countries that I compared were Germany, Holland, Belgium, Ireland,
> Finland, Luxembourg and Austria. Since set 10001 is not available in • France,
> I did not include this country in my mini-survey.
>
> After I had totalled the prices of these five sets for each country, I was
> able to make a rough comparisson. Here are the total prices for each • country:
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> BEL: EUR 534,96
> LUX: EUR 534,96
> GER: EUR 539,95
> IRE: EUR 554,53
> AUS: EUR 561,97
> HOL: EUR 563,98
> FIN: EUR 573,48
>
> As you can see, you would be best of in Belgium or Luxembourg if you were • to
> buy these 5 sets. The difference with Finland is EUR 38,52! (you could buy
> yourself a nice set for that, depending on in which country you live of
> course :). I don't know what the VAT % is for each of these countries but • I
> don't think that this would be the only explanation for the differences in
> price.
>
> What's strange is that from these results you would expect that all five
> sets would be cheapest in Belgium or Luxembourg, but that this is not the
> case. Set 6291 for example is cheapest in Germany and Ireland (EUR 54,99),
> while in the other countries it costs EUR 59,99. Another example: set • 10001
> costs EUR 150 in Belgium & Luxembourg, but in Germany it's cheaper - by • one
> whole eurocent!
>
> Another weird thing: while some sets have exactly the same prices in two
> countries, another set may differ as much as 10% in price between those • same
> two countries. For instance, 100019 costs EUR 199,90 in both Belgium and
> Germany. Set 6290 however, costs EUR 99,90 in Belgium, but EUR 109,99 in
> Germany!
>
> To me this comes across as really strange. It is almost as though someone • at
> LD is making up these prices at random. I'd like your thoughts on this. • But
> above all I hope LD is reading this and start scratching behind their ears
> and does something about it so that everyone gets the same amount of Lego
> for their Euros!
>
> Regards,
>
> Wessel
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In lugnet.loc.eu, Wessel Burgers writes:
> After the introduction of the new European currency three days ago, I was
> very curious about what would happen to S@H's prices in the euro-zone. What
> now follows are my findings (which are by no means scientific - it just
> illustrates how weird their current pricing policy is)
(snip comparison)
(Your curiosity saved me the trouble of investigating myself, so I thank you
for that)
> To me this comes across as really strange. It is almost as though someone at
> LD is making up these prices at random. I'd like your thoughts on this. But
> above all I hope LD is reading this and start scratching behind their ears
> and does something about it so that everyone gets the same amount of Lego
> for their Euros!
Hmmm...
I had noticed previously some differences in prices, which I attributed to
different transportation costs. I never realized such differences were
chaotic. You are absolutely right, LEGO must take actions to ensure at least
more coherent prices.
On the side, I'd like to see something else: S@H throughout Europe. The
currency is the same, and they ship from their headquarters, so why not? I
mean, it is not as if the had to implement a hotline or so, all the
structure is already there; the only new thing would be a couple of
postcodes for the Billund Post Office to handle...
Pedro
(BTW, I noticed you posted in Eurozone S@H destinations. I also X-posted to
other Eurozone countries; who knows, maybe we can show some unity on this :-)
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