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Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
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Having now visited both a Lego Imagination Centre and a Legoland, I have to
say that I prefer the pay-by-weight approach used at Legoland. I want to
spend my time choosing my bricks, not spend hours trying to pack them into
milkshake containers :-(<<

I kind of agree that it is a little time consuming to do but we have no choice
here. If we don't stack'em & pack'em, we loose!
Tossing 2x4 blocks in the cup nets about 100 or so.
Pack'em and you're up to at least 138 PLUS other items for $12.95.

Anybody know what 138 2x4's cost by weight???

Lego S@H cost is $13.98 for only 100 so the cups are a far better deal than
that.

Plus, right now the stores give you a free small cup at $50.00, a lerge cup at
$75.00! That lowers the cost to $11.10 per cup.


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RE: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
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Anybody know what 138 2x4's cost by weight???

~204 2x4's to the pound which is $28.00 at LLCA.................

= 18.95 for 138......


Thanx,

Mark


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Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
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"Jeff Reuland" <texmexsu1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:HoJ3Fp.CIA@lugnet.com...

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I kind of agree that it is a little time consuming to do but we have no • choice
here. If we don't stack'em & pack'em, we loose!
Tossing 2x4 blocks in the cup nets about 100 or so.
Pack'em and you're up to at least 138 PLUS other items for $12.95.


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I think this comes down to a money vs. time decision.  Is it worth 10-15
minutes of your time to pack an extra 30-40 bricks?

I was at the Woodfield store a couple weeks ago and packed three cups.  Tim
Courtney and Ondrew Hartigan were nice enough to pack a couple more for me.
I spent about an hour packing the three cups I decided to pack (granted, I
got better with each one I packed).  It was a frustrating hour too - I would
have left a far happier customer if I could have simply bought them by
weight.

So is it worth it?   For me, I don't think it is.  My time is worth more to
me (and my family and my employer) than the extra $10 worth of bricks I got
for an hours worth of work.  YMMV.

Mike

PS:  I am not going to Boston tomorrow so I won't have a chance to check out
on of the stores up there.


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Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
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In lugnet.general, Mike Walsh wrote:
I think this comes down to a money vs. time decision.  Is it worth 10-15
minutes of your time to pack an extra 30-40 bricks?<<

Mike

You are correct, it is exactly a money vs. time deal and here is my thinking.

I am 40 minutes from the Woodfield store.
I could just drop my 100 or so 2x4 bricks in each of 3 cups and be back on the
road in about 5 minutes.
Or I can pack in 138 blocks (plus a few others) in just under 10 minutes per
cup. Now my 5 minutes has become 30 but I have gained $13.00 worth of blocks.

That equals MORE than $26.00 worth of bonus Lego per hour spent packing!

As we have to purchase by volume here and not by weight packing 2x4's (and
larger) does appear to be worth spending a few extra minutes on stacking.

Cups are a far better deal on 1x1 tiles over buying by weight.
A $12.95 cup of tiles would probably cost $30.00!
(or more)


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Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:30:41 GMT
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Anybody know what 138 2x4's cost by weight???

~204 2x4's to the pound which is $28.00 at LLCA.................

= 18.95 for 138......


Thanx,

Mark<<



WOW! Thanks Mark.

Now I know that the 10 minutes spent packing the cup is well worth while.

We get 138 2x4's for 50% less than that AND there is room in the cup for other
small goodies!


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In lugnet.general, Mark & Milissa Millère <MMillere@Knology.net> wrote:

Anybody know what 138 2x4's cost by weight???

~204 2x4's to the pound which is $28.00 at LLCA.................

= 18.95 for 138......

So if my math is correct (and it frequently isn't) it is still less expensive to
simply scoop 100 loose 2x4's into a cup for $12.95 than it is to pay by weight
for the same 100 2x4's.  And the same volume presumably only gets heavier when
filled with smaller parts.  So under this pricing scheme, buying by volume is
always a better deal than by weight, even if you don't take the extra time to
pack the cups.

Interesting...

- Chris.


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Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:03:12 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
In lugnet.general, Mark & Milissa Millère <MMillere@Knology.net> wrote:

Anybody know what 138 2x4's cost by weight???

~204 2x4's to the pound which is $28.00 at LLCA.................

= 18.95 for 138......

So if my math is correct (and it frequently isn't) it is still less expensive to
simply scoop 100 loose 2x4's into a cup for $12.95 than it is to pay by weight
for the same 100 2x4's.  And the same volume presumably only gets heavier when
filled with smaller parts.  So under this pricing scheme, buying by volume is
always a better deal than by weight, even if you don't take the extra time to
pack the cups.

Interesting...

- Chris.

I guess in an ideal world I want to buy small parts by volume and large ones by
weight,then. :-) (ideal for us I mean)

But if you only get 100 2x4s for 13 USD, that's 13 cents a brick. That's way
over my threshold for 2x4s, a common part, unless they are in a rare color. I
can get red ones for under 2 cents  or so if I get a good deal on a bulk tub...

I tend to use a lot more 1x than I do 2x and I suspect a lot of us (other than
sculpture builders) are like that... the only exception being where I am
building large things and using 2x in the inside for strength.

So I suspect I will probably patronise PAB only for things I can't get other
ways or for rare colors, And I bet a lot of fans probably are thinking the same
thing.

But for rare colors, I'm there! I got a LOT of earth orange in Billund last
month... every earth orange 1x4 they had out, in fact.


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Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:14:53 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
In lugnet.general, Mark & Milissa Millère <MMillere@Knology.net> wrote:

Anybody know what 138 2x4's cost by weight???

~204 2x4's to the pound which is $28.00 at LLCA.................

= 18.95 for 138......

So if my math is correct (and it frequently isn't) it is still less expensive to
simply scoop 100 loose 2x4's into a cup for $12.95 than it is to pay by weight
for the same 100 2x4's.  And the same volume presumably only gets heavier when
filled with smaller parts.  So under this pricing scheme, buying by volume is
always a better deal than by weight, even if you don't take the extra time to
pack the cups.

Interesting...

Chris

Yes it is, it works out to about $0.14 per 2x4, same as S@H.

Weight does work better and better then S@H retail, the smaller the piece is.

If someone can tell me how many 1x1 plates fit in the small and large cups, I
would like to confirm your theory.

Same goes for 1x1 bricks.

FYI......

~1050 1x1 bricks to the pound and
~2560 1x1 plates to the pound.

These numbers do vary slightly depending on color (Black is lighter then Blue)
and version of piece. i.e. hollow or solid bottom stud on the plate


Thanx,

Mark


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Re: Improved Pick-A-Brick packing
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Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:21:09 GMT
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If someone can tell me how many 1x1 plates fit in the small and large cups, I would like to confirm your theory.<<

Not me! I'd go nutz counting that many plates(or blocks)!

But as Chris suggested, the smaller the part the better deal the volume theory
becomes.
I have a cup full of 1x4 plates that is heavier than a cup of 2x4's.
I also have cup almost full of 1x1 tiles that is far heavier than any other cup
I have filled!

Actually, I'd like to see someone prove the volume over weight theory wrong.
Even without stacking it appears that at the very worst it would be about even.

You simply cannot improve the cost per piece when purchasing by weight.
(or via S@H prices)

By volume you can, most times significantly!

If you figure time in, you must also consider the increased volume of your
spoils by stacking.

As I stated earlier, it figures out to about $26.00 more 2x4 brick per hour.

I will gladly pack your PAB cups for half that amount.

Could you imagine getting paid $13.00 per hour to stack Lego?

OK, not enough, how about $26.00 per hour???

(that's appears to be the difference in some situations)


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Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:21:53 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Jeff Reuland wrote:
Anybody know what 138 2x4's cost by weight???


When Pick-A-Brick first premiered at LEGOLAND and people were estimating price
per pieces, there was a link to a list of LEGO weights that Lutz Ulhmann had put
together.  We're going to DL next month and I wondered whether we should try and
fit in a trip to LEGOLAND or just buy at the LIC, so I decided to figure out how
expensive things were by volume or weight.  I used Lutz's numbers and the list
of pieces available at LEGOLAND and had Excel spit out this estimation of pieces
per 1/4 lb and price per piece.

http://www.geocities.com/hopemax.geo/legoweight.htm

You guys might find that helpful.

Since I don't have a cup yet, I haven't come up with great numbers by volume,
but roughly estimating we've decided to just stick with the LIC this trip.

Hope Maxwell


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