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"MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Paul Hanson

Hi everyone - I was just fooling around on lego.com and found something that may be of interest: (URL) not heard of this, and a quick search here on Lugnet didn't turn up anything - is this a new, heretofore unknown release? In any case, way to go (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle) !!

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —James Trobaugh

Great job Dan, that must be a great honor to have your MOC sold by LD as a set. Good to see you rewarded for your hard work. jt (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Matthew Gerber

(...) HOLY CRIPES! That is so cool! Where did this program come from, and why haven't we heard of it yet? Here's the text from the page: The first set created by a LEGO Fan! This special set is the first in the “My Own Creation” series, featuring (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Dave Amos

(...) I second this! I want to know all about it! This could throw people's designs in a whole new direction - set feasibility. I for one would enjoy the challenge of trying to do something like that, even if it was never chosen! Bravo to Dan and (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John P. Henderson

(...) Holy Moley! Simply brilliant! Regardless of anything I have previously said regarding set design and the direction of TLC, at this moment I can say nothing short of, THANK YOU LEGO DIRECT, THANK YOU! As for the challenge of trying build MOCs (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Tim Courtney

"Matthew Gerber" <matthew@digitaliris.com> wrote in message news:GoB67r.KFt@lugnet.com... (...) too!) (...) That's right, HOLY #@$(^&$#%^&#@$%^$#%#...*!!!...!!! (...) of (...) This is SO cool! Another thing LD is doing in the right direction. -Tim (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) Dear Mr. Courtney, It has come to our attention that you have used an expletive-deleted string that could not possibly correspond to any known foul word. As we pride ourselves in knowing EVERYTHING about foul words, we hereby request a (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Matthew Gerber

(...) Shouldn't that be "The Swearing Officiating Board" (S.O.B.)? Matt (LOL, BTW!) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Tim Courtney

"Mr L F Braun" <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message news:GoBEou.Jo8@lugnet.com... (...) "donkeybottom- (...) To Whom It May Concern: I have never heard of the Swearing Advisory Board. Allthough you pride yourself on knowing *everything* about (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Gary E. Blessing

What country are you guys logging in with? I get a "Sorry, item is not available in this country" when I use that link :-( Gary Matthew Gerber <matthew@digitaliris.com> wrote in message news:GoB67r.KFt@lugnet.com... (...) too!) (...) Blacksmith (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Tim Courtney

"blessing" <blessing@icefog.net> wrote in message news:GoBCF6.DK0@lugnet.com... (...) I used USA. -Tim (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —James Stacey

fine for UK too - but it does have no list price -- James Stacey ---...--- www.minifig.co.uk #925 - I'm a citizen of Legoland travelling Incommunicado "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GoBEEq.IzH@lugnet.com... (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richard Noeckel

(...) (URL) wait to see what’s next from the “My Own Creation” Series… Will it parallel the Legends Line in sequence and availability? (...) Indeed, I too would +LOVE+ to get some details on the whole process! (...) Lego Direct is a little (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Kevin Dixon

Hi, (...) couple of these just for parts alone. 622 pieces for $39.99! Blue roof slopes! Yay! I am intrigued though, how did Lego pick this model? Was there some sort of competition where anyone could submit models, or did Lego start searching web (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John P. Henderson

(...) I would also be curious if the creator of the model gets any financial kickback. I know most of us here would love the recognition and pride of getting a model reproduced by LD, but from a legal standpoint I wonder if any offer of money was (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Gary E. Blessing

I hope this line continues, I've got a couple of models I would like to be made "official". Congrats Dan! Gary Richard Noeckel <Shroud_of_kung_fu@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GoBG76.6o@lugnet.com... (...) (URL) (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Bryan Kinkel

This is interesting for a couple of reasons - 1. It shows that Lego Direct is continuing to explore creative new ways of selling the brick. 2. This may, hopefully, be the tip of the iceberg for the promised "create your own set" method of selling. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Ace Kim

i just got off the phone with a S@H rep, she said it would be available to order on Jan. 30. awesome stuff!! Congrats Dan!!!! i wonder... is it light blue or is the color balance in the photo wrong.... (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Erik Olson

Wow, did the world just change? (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Jeffrey M. Szklennik

(...) yes!!!--for the better--woohoo LEGO!!! jeff (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Well, it's not heretofore unknown per se: (URL) just heretofore unknown as a *LEGO* release. :-) It is particularly fitting that this has come to light on the very day that is arguably the Guild of Bricksmiths anniversary, since it was on 13 (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) Excellent! I noticed that a few modifications--which look like improvements, really--have been made from the original GoB kit. Good timing, though! :) And although I've said it via email: congrats and kudos to Dan. Woohoo! (And from TLC it's a (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John P. Henderson

(...) further connects (in my mind) to building, founding, and guilds... :) -H. (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Sonnich Jensen

I just wonder whether lego just want to control business or they realised that these sets actually have a wide interest. If this is the first one, then I hope the future will be brighted up with more.... Sonnich www.hot.ee/sonnich/lego/ Larry (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Benjamin Medinets

(...) Congradulations.....it is nice to see the line that finally recognizes the efforts of the adult lego community. I just like to reply that one hand, I think that the models in general from the Guild are pretty superb, (And that producing (...) (22 years ago, 16-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Kevin Wilson

Hi Ben I'm not going to answer every detail of your post, but there are a few misconceptions that I need to address. (...) I suggest you try producing a kit, Ben, and see just how much time it takes to do a good job, and how much the right quality (...) (22 years ago, 16-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Frank Filz

(...) Though I have not yet even thought about entering the kit market, I can agree with everything Kevin says. Yet, I still feel the kits are priced above the level I am willing to spend. Part of that is that with my extensive collection, I don't (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

(...) It does indeed sound like a lot of work. (...) I wonder if some other 'guild' will attempt to fill this marketing void? Why not offer just high quality step-by-step instructions for models you can build with parts you already have? (...) Based (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Frank Filz

(...) I agree that it would be nice to see a variety of sets. I think however that you will continue to see a heavy weighting in favor of town, train, and castle. Why? Because I think the bulk of LEGO sales are in these categories (though space is (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

(...) Perhaps a valid point. However, it can be argued that virtually anything can be a big seller if the kids want to buy it. Perfect example... Bionicle. It's neither Town nor Train, but it's flying off the shelves right now. Parents where I work (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Frank Filz

(...) Oh, no doubt about it it's good to branch out. Of course they have done so with the sculptures and the Sopwith Camel (labeled a sculpture but obviously Model Team). (...) I wouldn't hold my breath for Aztec or Egyptian. Too close to what's (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John Morgan

(...) That's what I was thinking when he said they fit into the same niche. Roman, Greek, or Viking would be great. (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —James Brown

(...) It's a very compelling reason. I haven't bought a set for the main model in years; everything is a parts source. I'm positive I'm not the only AFOL out there like this, either. I've pre-ordered my first (mumble) copies already, strictly for (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

(...) I'm exactly the opposite. I will ONLY buy a set that I like and I only buy it for the set. Whatever parts it happens to contain then so be it. This currently explains why I don't buy a lot of sets. Most of the current offerings are so shallow (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richie Dulin

(...) Okay, so you only buy sets for their good design. The parts selection doesn't matter... (...) Clearly, you didn't buy the buckets and tubs for their good design, but for the parts selection.... (...) So you found some good designs... (...) It (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.market.theory)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

(...) No, to quote myself from the posting you replied to: "Whatever parts it happens to contain then so be it. " I have never and would never buy a set only to get a part or parts. If a good set has interesting parts (and hopefully still a hefty (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richie Dulin

(...) But, you said you bought them "to round out my collection with a smattering of 'specialty bricks'." (...) But you said you buy sets for good designs. And you just said "I have never and would never buy a set only to get a part or parts.". How (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

(...) Yes. You are absolutely correct. These are the things I've said. The two things are not mutually exclusive. I am not such a 'brick purest' that I don't recognize the value of specialty pieces. However, as mentioned, I don't buy a set because (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richie Dulin

(...) it's not a valid comparison. [snip] (...) ...or others disagree about. (...) Except that you're not a customer of S@H. And not a major customer of the rest of LEGO either. [snip] (...) I'm not sure you do - you've invited me to "join the (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

(...) Richie... For whatever reason, you seem to latch onto one or more specific notions and ignore other parts of my argument in order to make your point. The above is a perfect example. I have already stated that I was NOT comparing piece counts. (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richie Dulin

(...) I have “latched onto…specific notions” because I believe your arguments are flawed or contradictory. (...) But on what basis do you think it is a valid comparison… that they are two LEGO sets which are police stations? Why not throw the Duplo (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

We now return you to your regularly scheduled debate, already in progress. (...) Richie... I think we're getting somewhere. :) I'm sorry to come off sounding so verbally heavy-handed in my last post, but I really felt like our 'debate' was disolving (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richie Dulin

(...) [snip] (...) I think we are/were a long way from that point. At least I hope we are/were ;-) (...) [Same here. I've left in the relevent bits I'm commenting on] (...) I'd invite you to have a look at the parts selection in Slave I. There are (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Benjamin Medinets

allow me to add some colour (oops...that's canadian...) :) commentary. <snip> (...) but it does raise a contentious issue of reality of the set (design) vs. ease of construction plus, the older sets could be made into other creations, if the the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Thomas Stangl

(...) Well, hate to burst your bubble, but 50-60K bricks in 3 years DOESN'T put you in the "major customer" bracket. That's a drop in the ocean. Some people around here have bought that many bricks (or more) in ONE DAY. And even that won't begin to (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Attributing quotes (was:"MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com) —Ross Crawford

Tom, You should be a bit more careful with your quoting - most of this was actually Allan's comments. Also, it makes things easier if you reply to the actual post you're quoting most from. Regards ROSCO (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allan Bedford

(...) Tom, you're not bursting any bubble, you're simply confirming what I said. I am not, and do not consider myself to be a "major customer" by any definition. I have what I think is a fairly small collection for an adult. 50,000 bricks, spread (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Larry Pieniazek

(...) No, it's actually quite clear. As in the example above. ("I" am saying that YOU wrote the stuff that is marked with ">" symbols and YOU are saying that TOM wrote the stuff that is marked with ">>" symbols.) PLEASE DO NOT manually "correct" (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.nntp)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Erik Olson

(...) You're right, though it could be 250-300 pounds. I don't think I have a ton of bricks, either. Now half a million is sure to be a ton of bricks. (22 years ago, 30-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Thomas Stangl

My wife keeps joking about our 2nd floor apt not being able to handle the weight of the Lego - good thing that ton or more is spread out all over the place ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (22 years ago, 30-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Frank Filz

(...) Adult who enjoys 'building' with LEGO sounds like an AFOL to me. What do you think AFOL implies if it doesn't include this type of person? I think any adult who has at least one of the following characteristics is an AFOL: - enjoys building (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) I guess I'm just not fond of labels. If someone else wants to call themself an AFOL I have no problem with that... it's just not for me. Besides, if you could see inside my head, view how my brain operates, you'd realize that even labeling (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Ross Crawford

(...) But is not "adult who enjoys building with LEGO" as much a label as "adult fan of LEGO"? 8?) ROSCO (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) Is someone who believes in God necessarily a Christian? Regards, Allan B. Definitely NOT an AFOL (22 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Maggie Cambron

(...) It's all right Allan, we understand. It took me almost a year of lurking before I could bring myself to post here, and being a closet AFOL was my dirty little family secret for almost another year (although my Kindergartener almost spilled the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) I've was posting to rec.toys.lego about 3 1/2 years ago. I have been posting to LUGNET for quite some time now (over 3 years) I'm not shy. I'm not a lurker. Thanks for the sentiments though. (...) Well, I feel bad for you that you felt you had (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Jude Beaudin

(...) Wow, this thread has gone from the discovery of the MOC series on the LEGO website to asking the question, "Who is God?" :-) I think a better question would have been: just because you live in a garage, does that make you a car? But seriously, (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) Testing, testing, 1... 2... 3, testing. I am not 100% certain that the words I'm typing on my computer are transmitting correctly to the LUGNET server. I'm almost certain I didn't ask "Who is God?" What I asked was, "Is someone who believes in (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Ross Crawford

(...) to (...) fan (...) You miss my point. I am not making a comment as to which best describes you, just that you've said you're not fond of labels, then promptly labelled youself. The answer to your question is obviously no, but "someone who (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) I'm still missing your point I think. I don't recall labeling myself with anything. I did try to express a description to help folks understand me, but I really didn't define a label to attach to it. What label do you see that I've called (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Frank Filz

(...) You called yourself "an adult who likes to build with LEGO". That's a label. Another label you claim for yourself is "Allan Bedford". I raise that one to point out that without labels, conversation would be impossible. (...) And those "labels" (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) You win. Label me a quitter, because I give up on this debate. (...) Which is exactly why I don't want to be lumped in with folks calling themselves AFOL's. I simply don't have enough in common with them to warrent using that term. (...) I'm (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —James Brown

(...) I think you are reading much more into the label "AFOL" than most people. To me (and Frank, from what he says above) AFOL means no more than that you are an adult who enjoys LEGO as a hobby. I've never thought it might mean anything more until (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Steve Bliss

(...) (pssst! You forgot to mention 'Hitler'!) (...) And I don't use 'AFOL' because when you say it out loud, it's something awful. Steve (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Benjamin Medinets

(...) I really don't think this comment is appropriate for this debate, Steve. Not to overly criticize, but Allan wanted to distance himself from the typical "fan of lego". I wanted to try to prove that he didn't come up with the title, but alas he (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) I have already responded to Steve by indicating that I honestly don't understand his comment. Is there something I'm missing here? (...) That was part of my point. Thank you for seeing it. (...) "come up with the title"? O.K. now you've lost (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Maggie Cambron

(...) It is understood around .debate that if you mention the name Hitler you automatically concede the debate. That's all Steve was referring to. Geez, you guys need to lighten up! Maggie (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Ross Crawford

(...) Sorry, Maggie, no can do - it's Christmas season! I'll lighten up again in January! Can someone please pass the Vegemite stuffing? ROSCO FUT .fun (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Maggie Cambron

(...) Hmm... I can't decide whether I'm hoping this is a joke or whether I'm hoping it's NOT a joke (in which case I'll be requesting the recipe Rosco!). Maggie (who also occasionally gets stumped in the absence of the smiley) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Ross Crawford

(...) I hope it's a joke! I've never seen Vegemite stuffing, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone's tried it!! As for the recipe, well who needs recipes when Vegemite's involved, anyway? 8?) (...) I thought the FUT gave it away 8?) ROSCO (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) I guess it's not completely understood. ;) I've been posting to LUGNET for over 3 years. This isn't my first appearance in the .debate groups. This is certainly the first time I've seen the use of a name like that. It really seems in poor (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Maggie Cambron

(...) The name wasn't arbitrarily chosen like yelling "uncle". I think it has more to do with the tired examples involving Hitler that are invoked whenever someone can't think of anything better to support their argument. Here's a bit about it. (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Allan Bedford

(...) Steve, I'm sorry, I don't quite understand your comment. (...) Nor this comment. Your point is lost on me. Perhaps you could elaborate a bit. Best regards, Allan B. (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Steve Bliss

(...) Maggie's already covered this, so I won't re-iterate her response. (...) When I say "AFOL" out loud, it sounds an awful lot like "awful". Sorry I forgot crosspost to .pun. "MOC" is another lugnetish acronym that doesn't make a very good (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —David Eaton

(...) Kinda like "IANAL"? (I Am Not A Lawyer) DaveE (FUT fun) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop) —Ross Crawford

(...) giddy (...) themself (...) God" (...) Well, that seems to be where we differ. I see AFOL as simply an acronymic (????) abbreviation of "adult fan of LEGO". Maybe it's acronyms you're not fond of? (...) Or four 8?) (...) So where's the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Frank Filz

(...) Why limit yourself so? I assume you don't mean that the only thing you build is sets. I have purchased many sets which I have no interest whatsoever in what the set builds, but I buy because of the great parts selection in it. Deep discounts (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.general)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richard Marchetti

(...) What intrigues me the most is the price per element on that thing. It's approx. $0.06 USD an element. That's a pretty good deal for new bricks. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —René Hoffmeister

(...) Dan, nice, very nice to see this! The blacksmith was / is excellent work and it's worth to be the first "AFOL-set". Viele GRüße, René (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Kevin Johnston

(...) Congrats to Dan, and-- Bravo, Lego, BRAVO! (Kinda puts Cypress-gate into perspective, eh? ;-) Kevin (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Kevin Johnston

Re-directing as intended in the first place.... -- Kevin ---...--- (...) Congrats to Dan, and-- Bravo, Lego, BRAVO! (Kinda puts Cypress-gate into perspective, eh? ;-) Kevin (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Pawel Nazarewicz

Coming next - Bloodstone Castle - $850.00 :) (URL) Pawel (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) *steal* for that castle! :D (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Pawel Nazarewicz

(...) I know ... and you don't think $39.99 is a steal for THIS?!?!? Trying to make a point and on a natural high right now ... -- Pawel (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Jason Cicchini

(...) I totally know what you're saying Pawel. This is like every castle head's dream come true! Coolness beyond words, possibly to the point of whimpering in delight. lol. So when will the code be broken over what's to come next? I REQUIRE more (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) Well, of course! But $850, even at TLC mass-production price points, would be GREAT for a Dan Castle! :) (...) Heh. Well, it's only a month away... best LFB (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Jason Spears

(...) I with Pawel on this, I am complete stoked about this. A set by an AFOL being sold by Lego? Wooohoooo!!! And the price, even better, I know this will make me think twice about the after Christmas sales. -Jason +---...---+ Jason Spears Michlug (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: Bloodstone Castle —David Gregory

If I actually could save up $850 to spend on LEGOS, and your Bloodstone castle went on sale, I would be so emotionally torn as to whether I should buy it or just save up another $150 to buy a life time pass to LEGOland. On the one hand the life (...) (22 years ago, 16-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: Bloodstone Castle —Pawel Nazarewicz

(...) As LFB pointed out, I was just kidding about putting a $850.00 sticker on the Bloodstone Castle. I think that a 2-3K figure is much more like it, but once the instructions and shipping would be factored in, the figure would really be around 3K (...) (22 years ago, 16-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Mark de Kock

(...) Great set! Only one question: Why, LEGO, why only in the USoA ????? Is the rest of the world not 'good enough' to get these kind of gems? (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Richard Morton

Hi Paul, Which location are you in? I don't think this is USA only, it certainly shows up when I click my former home country - UK. Richard Morton Chief Brick Sorter! (URL) <mark.de.kock@NOSPAM.home.nl> wrote in message news:GoBpGL.Ju6@lugnet.com... (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Paul Hanson

(...) I'm in the US. For me the set is currently listed as "Not Available" (but I expect that will change :-)). I don't know about other countries. - Paul (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John P. Henderson

(...) In addition to the posts suggesting it may be available in the UK, it is also possible that LD has simply not yet worked out the details of distribution. I haven't even seen a formal announcement from them on the set, or the series. I suspect (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Mark de Kock

(...) I hope so too, but when comparing the different inventories of the US and Dutch shop at home sites, it doesn't seem likely. Check out the mega-track set that is not available in the red-white-and-blue of The Netherlands. And it's been in the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Mark de Kock

(...) Uh-oh. It seems I spoke too soon. <puts on the cloack of shame> Now the Blacksmith Shop is also to be seen in the Dutch section, under 'Hard to Find'. No price and 'not available', but the picture is there. LD, I apologize for my quick jump (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Magnus Lauglo

WOW! I haven't been this amazed legowise since the day I realised that Brickfest 2001 was going to happen within spiting distance of where I live (about 48 hours before it kicked off). Awesome MOC, Dan, I'll need to get my hands on a few of those. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Shiri Dori

Wow, wow, WOW!!! Words fail me. I want one. Wow. That is great - the set was great to begin with, the price is ridiculously attainable and great value, and I only wish I could get it in time as an Xmas present (did I say that out loud...?). Just (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Stephen Buechi

(...) That Blacksmith Shop is incredible! They kept all the best parts of Dan's already impressive MOC, and even went above and beyond, adding details like the attic, torches, and weapons rack. This is probably the first thing I've seen from Shop at (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Allen Carley

As a happy purchaser of the 'original' of this set from www.brickmania.com, I'd like to throw in my 2 cents. a) It's a wonderful set. Between the details Dan threw into the interior, to the sturdy walls, to the ivy on the outside. It was a joy to (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John P. Henderson

(...) But if I never buy a house, where will I put this collection of LEGO that currently fills several rooms in my apartment?? =) -H. (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —James Trobaugh

In lugnet.castle, Allen Carley writes: <snip> (...) I'm guessing the attic was added as a way to sure up the roof a bit. The version of this that I had seen seemed a bit "fragle" in the roof area. Adding the attic is a great way to tighten things up (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Alexander Johnston

(...) Uhhhh What is going on?!? Why hasn't LEGO said anything about this before. I must have any info anyone can give me! OMG. I just had a thought. What if some of the Bricktopia buildings made it into this MOC program. No words would desrcibe how (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John Neal

(...) It's called a leak, almost certainly unintentional on TLC's part... -John (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Daniel Siskind

Hello everyone! I was as surprised and to see this post as anyone last night. I obviously knew of this set, but I don't think this is how LD intended to unveil their first MOC product. I don't mean to scold the folks of Lugnet for jumping the gun, (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct) !!

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Jennifer L. Boger

(...) Congratulations! This is awesome :) (...) I've got mine around here somewhere... I *knew* I should have inventoried it :) Look forward to seeing your next creation :) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Paul Hanson

(...) Hi everyone (but expecially Dan and the FINE folks at LD) - Now I feel really bad about posting about this set yesterday. I found it on the Lego website, so I assumed that it was public knowledge, and that I was simply out of the loop. I had (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Jeff Findley

(...) Don't feel upset. LEGO has always done things like this. You can start finding catalogs for the following year, even before new themes and sets are "officially" announced. I guess LEGO did the same here. I don't think they realize that putting (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John P. Henderson

(...) Were you paid in LEGO bricks? Now *that* would have been cool !! <grin> Seriously though, thanks for your post. It was both informative and enlightening on a subject we would all agree is most wonderfully cool... :) -H. (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —John Gerlach

(...) As someone who saw a version of it 'in progress' last night, I'll vouch for it being "truly amazing"!! Congrats from the whole GMLTC, Dan. You've definitely brought a LOT of creativity and skills to our little club. We can't wait to see what (...) (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Emmanuelle Ricci

fantastic! how do they choose? i hope they'll do the same with Chris' wizard's tower (URL) would be great (22 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)

Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com —Brett Kingery

Well, I said it over in lugnet.direct, and I'll say it here too (without crossposting even ;) ). This is AWESOME! It's a great set, it's an awesome price, I'll be buying at least one, if not more (if I hadn't just gone to Italy AND Walt Disney (...) (22 years ago, 15-Dec-01, to lugnet.castle)