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I would like to use the following colors in MLCAD:
1. Light Stone Gray
2. Medium Stone Gray
3. Dark Stone Gray
I have been attempting to find or create these colors in MLCAD, but I have not
been fully successful. I’ll also be rendering with these colors, so they will
need to work outside of MLCAD as well.
Anybody have any ideas of how to "get" these colors in MLCAD?
Thanks,
David J. Perdue
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, David J. Perdue wrote:
> I would like to use the following colors in MLCAD:
>
> 1. Light Stone Gray
>
> 2. Medium Stone Gray
>
> 3. Dark Stone Gray
>
> I have been attempting to find or create these colors in MLCAD, but I have not
> been fully successful. I’ll also be rendering with these colors, so they will
> need to work outside of MLCAD as well.
>
> Anybody have any ideas of how to "get" these colors in MLCAD?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David J. Perdue
Hi David,
The only way I've found is to use some other colours for them and then remap the
colour definitions in POVray. l3p doesn't like the colours and converts them
completely wrong.
Tim
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, David J. Perdue wrote:
> I would like to use the following colors in MLCAD:
>
> 1. Light Stone Gray
>
> 2. Medium Stone Gray
>
> 3. Dark Stone Gray
>
> I have been attempting to find or create these colors in MLCAD, but I have not
> been fully successful. I’ll also be rendering with these colors, so they will
> need to work outside of MLCAD as well.
>
> Anybody have any ideas of how to "get" these colors in MLCAD?
Hi David,
As far as I can work out, MLCad does not currently support the colours defined
in ldconfig.ldr. It doesn't seem to work for me anyway. But you can define
custom colours in your models, using the colour dialog you get by clicking
"more" to the right of the standard colour boxes, and clicking "define...".
These colours are not global however, and must be defined for each model. The
RGB values can be found here:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
However, if you want to render them using l3p, I'm not sure if l3p will
recognise those custom MLCad colours. So for that it's probably easier to do as
Tim suggested - use the standard colours in MLCad, and convert them afterwards.
HTH
ROSCO
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.mlcad, David J. Perdue wrote:
> > I would like to use the following colors in MLCAD:
> >
> > 1. Light Stone Gray
> >
> > 2. Medium Stone Gray
> >
> > 3. Dark Stone Gray
> >
> > I have been attempting to find or create these colors in MLCAD, but I have not
> > been fully successful. I’ll also be rendering with these colors, so they will
> > need to work outside of MLCAD as well.
> >
> > Anybody have any ideas of how to "get" these colors in MLCAD?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David J. Perdue
>
> Hi David,
>
> The only way I've found is to use some other colours for them and then remap the
> colour definitions in POVray. l3p doesn't like the colours and converts them
> completely wrong.
>
> Tim
That sure is the truth! POV was rendering one of the stone gray colors as green.
Thanks for the tip, Tim.
- David
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Ross Crawford wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.mlcad, David J. Perdue wrote:
> > I would like to use the following colors in MLCAD:
> >
> > 1. Light Stone Gray
> >
> > 2. Medium Stone Gray
> >
> > 3. Dark Stone Gray
> >
> > I have been attempting to find or create these colors in MLCAD, but I have not
> > been fully successful. I’ll also be rendering with these colors, so they will
> > need to work outside of MLCAD as well.
> >
> > Anybody have any ideas of how to "get" these colors in MLCAD?
>
> Hi David,
>
> As far as I can work out, MLCad does not currently support the colours defined
> in ldconfig.ldr. It doesn't seem to work for me anyway. But you can define
> custom colours in your models, using the colour dialog you get by clicking
> "more" to the right of the standard colour boxes, and clicking "define...".
> These colours are not global however, and must be defined for each model. The
> RGB values can be found here:
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
I found this link just yesterday or the day before, and I was glad to see that
the three stone colors were on it. Now I have the RGB values, although the RGB
for Dark Stone Grey doesn't seem to work too well.
> However, if you want to render them using l3p, I'm not sure if l3p will
> recognise those custom MLCad colours. So for that it's probably easier to do as
> Tim suggested - use the standard colours in MLCad, and convert them afterwards.
>
> HTH
>
> ROSCO
Light stone grey seems to be working well with l3p and POV-Ray. For now at
least. I think if I use that one and dark gray as a substitute for dark stone
gray--and maybe do some additional tweaking--that might be good enough for my
rendering purposes.
Thanks for your response!
- David
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, David J. Perdue wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Ross Crawford wrote:
> > The RGB values can be found here:
> > http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
>
> I found this link just yesterday or the day before, and I was glad to see that
> the three stone colors were on it. Now I have the RGB values, although the RGB
> for Dark Stone Grey doesn't seem to work too well.
In your LDraw install directory (usually C:\LDraw), there should be a file of
color definitions, ldconfig.ldr. You can also find it at
<http://www.ldraw.org/library/official/ldconfig.ldr>. This file includes RGB
values for colors, that might work better than the values on the colorguide
list.
I believe L3P recognizes the definitions in ldconfig.ldr, so if you use the
color-codes for the stone-grays, they should render correctly.
Steve
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Steve Bliss wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.mlcad, David J. Perdue wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Ross Crawford wrote:
> > > The RGB values can be found here:
> > > http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
> >
> > I found this link just yesterday or the day before, and I was glad to see that
> > the three stone colors were on it. Now I have the RGB values, although the RGB
> > for Dark Stone Grey doesn't seem to work too well.
>
> In your LDraw install directory (usually C:\LDraw), there should be a file of
> color definitions, ldconfig.ldr. You can also find it at
> <http://www.ldraw.org/library/official/ldconfig.ldr>. This file includes RGB
> values for colors, that might work better than the values on the colorguide
> list.
>
> I believe L3P recognizes the definitions in ldconfig.ldr, so if you use the
> color-codes for the stone-grays, they should render correctly.
>
> Steve
I downloaded the ldconfig.ldr file and replaced mine in case it was outdated.
There are two colors in the file that look like what I need:
0 !COLOUR Stone_Gray CODE 71 VALUE #A3A2A4 EDGE 0
0 !COLOUR Dark_Stone_Gray CODE 72 VALUE #635F61 EDGE 0
However, the color codes 71 and 72 do not work for me in MLCAD. When I open up
the color bar for a piece and type in or look for color 71 and 72, they show up
simply as "unused" colors.
Am I doing or reading something wrong?
Thanks,
David
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> I downloaded the ldconfig.ldr file and replaced mine in case it was outdated.
> There are two colors in the file that look like what I need:
>
> 0 !COLOUR Stone_Gray CODE 71 VALUE #A3A2A4 EDGE 0
> 0 !COLOUR Dark_Stone_Gray CODE 72 VALUE #635F61 EDGE 0
>
> However, the color codes 71 and 72 do not work for me in MLCAD. When I open up
> the color bar for a piece and type in or look for color 71 and 72, they show up
> simply as "unused" colors.
MLCad doesn't currently use ldconfig.ldr but other apps should (l3p,
ldview, etc..) Specifying the number they recognise should be enough.
--
Dean Earley, Dee (dean@earlsoft.co.uk)
irc: irc://irc.blitzed.org/
web: http://personal.earlsoft.co.uk
phone: +44 (0)780 8369596
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Dean Earley wrote:
> > I downloaded the ldconfig.ldr file and replaced mine in case it was outdated.
> > There are two colors in the file that look like what I need:
> >
> > 0 !COLOUR Stone_Gray CODE 71 VALUE #A3A2A4 EDGE 0
> > 0 !COLOUR Dark_Stone_Gray CODE 72 VALUE #635F61 EDGE 0
> >
> > However, the color codes 71 and 72 do not work for me in MLCAD. When I open up
> > the color bar for a piece and type in or look for color 71 and 72, they show up
> > simply as "unused" colors.
>
> MLCad doesn't currently use ldconfig.ldr but other apps should (l3p,
> ldview, etc..) Specifying the number they recognise should be enough.
I'm pretty certain l3p doesn't recognise bley (or ldconfig.ldr) unfortunately.
Tim
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Dean Earley wrote:
> > MLCad doesn't currently use ldconfig.ldr but other apps should (l3p,
> > ldview, etc..) Specifying the number they recognise should be enough.
>
> I'm pretty certain l3p doesn't recognise bley (or ldconfig.ldr) unfortunately.
That's correct. The "next version" of L3P will support it, as far as I know, but
it's impossible to say when that will be out. LDView does support it, and
LDGLite might. However, the current L3P does support 12-bit dithered colors
24-bit color definitions.
In MLCad, click the "Custom..." button on the "Select color" dialog, then select
"24-bit color solid" in the combo box, then select your color. Alternatively,
just type the hex number from ldconfig.ldr directly in the box with a 0x02
preceding it. So Stone Gray would be 0x02A3A2A4. For transparent colors,
change the 0x02 at the beginning to 0x03. If you do this, the color should show
up fine in MLCad, LDView, L3P, L3Lab, and probably LDGLite.
--Travis
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Travis Cobbs wrote:
> In MLCad, click the "Custom..." button on the "Select color" dialog, then select
> "24-bit color solid" in the combo box, then select your color. Alternatively,
> just type the hex number from ldconfig.ldr directly in the box with a 0x02
> preceding it. So Stone Gray would be 0x02A3A2A4. For transparent colors,
> change the 0x02 at the beginning to 0x03. If you do this, the color should show
> up fine in MLCad, LDView, L3P, L3Lab, and probably LDGLite.
>
> --Travis
Victory! I used this method to get the stone colors, and everything is turning
out right. In conclusion, here are the three stone hex numbers:
Dark Stone Gray: 0x02635F61
Medium Stone Gray: 0x02A3A2A4
Light Stone Gray: 0x02E5E4DE
I've been following everyone's responses and deeply appreciate the feedback.
Thanks to the numerous people who responded to my original question!
- David
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