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Re: LEGO Desert Express
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lugnet.trains
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Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:00:20 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.build, Holger Matthes writes:
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > just one question: What do you mean with "Alco C420"??? Is that the name of • the
> > engine?? Sorry I have no idea about the manufacturer of the real one.
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> Alco, or American Locomotive Works,
Misteak- American Loco Company, Schenctady, NY
> their subsidiary Montreal Locomotive Works-
no, seperate company, not subsidiary. MLW was bought out by Bombardier, who
made the last ALCO engined (251 type) engines. I believe the rights to 251's
are now held by Colt/Pielstick
> made
> locos using their designs and tooling, later extending it somewhat, and MLW
> units were quite prevalent on CN and CP until quite recently. Many MLWs have
> safety cabs and they actually were one of the first manufacturers to do full
> width cabs on road switchers.
MLW tooling was different than ALCO, especially with the bodywork. Not to
mention that the LRC's had NO common bodywork with any other ALCO product.
(the last 7 power units are to be retired soon...but hey, they are still doing
the ton)
> For whatever reason Alcos have a distinctive burble exhaust sound, if you've
> ever heard one you'd remember it for ever, Way different than EMD or GE.
> They also had notorious problems with sooting, many Alcos a bit out of tune
> tend to put huge clouds of black smoke out when accelerating and the
> generator is under load, loading the prime mover. I think it was a turbo
> problem but I forget exactly.
Because they were turbocharged, whereas the early 2 strokes by everyone else
were supercharged. When you speed up a turbocharged engine, you can get turbo
lag. There are some WONDERFUL photos of the PA's leaving Montreal on the D&H,
and you would swear that it was a steamer-being poorly fired!- that was pulling
the train.
James
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| (...) James, if you're going to go into "rivet counting mode" (1), make sure you spell everything right in your nitpicks! :-) Schenectady is closer to correct but may or may not be 100% there either. (...) I believe MLW was a subsidiary at some (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) Alco, or American Locomotive Works, was a US major steam engine builder who entered the Diesel marketplace, first in partnership with GE for electricals and then alone after GE decided to do it all. At one point Alco was #2 behind EMD. The (...) (24 years ago, 21-Dec-00, to lugnet.build)
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