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Re: Scale - it's all in the aspect ratio
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Date: 
Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:56:50 GMT
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STEVEBAR wrote:

So, I have been reading posts and thinking about tight curves vs large
layouts vs long train cars... here's some thoughts to react to...

There seems to be several ways to skin this cat. You can determine gauge by
starting with:

Careful with your vocabulary.  The word "gauge" specifically refers to the
distance between the rails.  I think you mean "scale".

1) Rail width

Good way IMO to determine scale.  We know that proto is 4' 8 1/2" and so it's
easy to figure out.

2) Rail radius or Max train car length (My rule of thumb is, if your looking
straight down and you can see the inner rail on the outside of the train car
then it's too long).

Woo-hoo!   Hear that, J-1?  According to Steve, my 60 stud long passenger cars
aren't too long after all:-)

3) Minifig or Train windows/doors

Minifig is another really good way.  Train windows and doors is not a good way,
because they are not standard on all trains.

Each starting point will dictate the other parameters, and contradict the
other starting points.

I kinda like long passenger coaches, so I tend to use 1x4x2 windows.

Me too (2 side by side 1x2x2 thin walls), unless the proto calls for just a
single 1x2x2.

I even
played with using use black bricks for windows and tried 4 plates x 3 studs.
Essentially shrinking the scale and keeping the coaches a reasonable length;
the profile aspect ratio.

As for 8 wide. Do what you will. To me it's all about side profile (length
vs height) and very little to do with width.

You are spot on-- from the side my 8 wide coaches are indistinguishable in
scale from the metroliner (just longer).  8 wide only comes into play when you
look at the car from the end and wonder who squeezed your 6 wide train...;-)

Where you might like 8 wide is when you go to model the *interior* where you
will find more room, or if you wanted to shroud your wheels for some reason:-)

When I set out to build a new
train I build a one side wall first, iterating on color scheme, striping and
window placements.

Me, too.

-John



SteveB



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(...) No. We know that most of _continental europe, the UK and North America_ are 4-8-1/2". However, there is a lot of narrow gauge stuff around, and a fair amount of broad gauge too. All of Russia is 5' something. Africa is mostly 3'6", Australia (...) (24 years ago, 11-Dec-00, to lugnet.trains)

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So, I have been reading posts and thinking about tight curves vs large layouts vs long train cars... here's some thoughts to react to... There seems to be several ways to skin this cat. You can determine gauge by starting with: 1) Rail width 2) Rail (...) (24 years ago, 11-Dec-00, to lugnet.trains)

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