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Re: New Idea for Rail Ties
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Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:52:46 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
Check this out:  http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1399

I have come up with an idea to heighten the realism of the LEGO 9 volt
track.

First, I laid down a 10 wide row of black plates.  Then I laid down the
track.  I next filled in the gaps in the track with dark gray 2x4 plates
on the inside, and 1x2s on the outside.  Then I laid down the brown 1x4
tiles.  Ideally, the outside 1x2 tiles would be replaced with 1x1 brown
tiles-- however, these do not currently exist AFAIK.

Of course, curves will be a little trickier, but I thought I'd toss this
out first to see what folk think.  If a lot thought the idea had merit,
I'd go and figure out the curves and perhaps we could give a unified cry
to LD for bulk dark gray 1x2, 2x4 plates; and 1x1, 1x4 brown tiles.  We
would need *a lot* of them:-)

Kind of pretty. I see a few minor problems, though:

- the underlayment of black doesn't go out far enough
- track ties are never brown. (LGB got it wrong) They start out black and fade
to a weathered grey over the years as the creosote leaches out. So the dark
grey we are using now is actually the right color
- The ties you've come up with are a bit too high, the rails look like they
are sunk in
- the biggie: cost. I suspect this would cost hugely.

It would be nice if TLC got the tie (sleeper for you UK and european types)
width and spacing "right". Which begs the question, what is right? This
problem comes up in G. The right tie spacing if you assume the track is meter
gauge (implying a 1:22.5 scale like LGB) is wrong if you assume the track is
standard gauge (implying more like a 1:32 scale ala the Aristocraft trains).
So a tie spacing that made 6 wide guys happy would possibly be too close
together for the 8 widers and vice versa.

It's a toy so I guess I can live with the current tie spacing. Put it this
way, if TLC fixed either the track geometry or the tie spacing, which would
you pick? I'd go for track geometry, the current switch/point/turnout geometry
is SO BAD it's not funny. Fixing both would be better of course

But if your idea leads to TLC making lots of brown tile available at a good
price, that would suit me just fine.

++Lar



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: New Idea for Rail Ties
 
(...) Prolly not high enough either. It would look better with 1x1 tiles on the outside instead of 1x2s. (...) The coloring is going to be a problem because if we make the ties dark gray, there will be no color distinction between bed and tie. That (...) (24 years ago, 22-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains)
  Re: New Idea for Rail Ties
 
(...) Just curious, what exactly do you think the problem is with the geometry of the points. Before you respond I'll say what I think it wrong, and what I think most people are complaining about. I think the problem is that the geometry is limited (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains)

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  New Idea for Rail Ties
 
Check this out: (URL) have come up with an idea to heighten the realism of the LEGO 9 volt track. First, I laid down a 10 wide row of black plates. Then I laid down the track. I next filled in the gaps in the track with dark gray 2x4 plates on the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Sep-00, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains)  

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