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Re: 4561 modifications
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Date: 
Thu, 2 Dec 1999 04:11:21 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz writes:

There is also some commuter rail which is self powered, though I think
Budliners are getting rare. I used to ride these into Boston quite
frequently, but rode as recently as last Christmas. These days, sometimes
they are powered by a locomotive. I'm trying to remember if they even are
Budliners any more, they may be running coaches now, but I know I have seen
Budliner/locomotive lashups running on this line. It also used to be run by
the Boston and Maine separately from the T.

Yes. Buddliners (note the extra D). THERE's a hybrid. These evolved out of Budd
RDCs, I think, and I have heard of versions of these that are Diesel powered,
electric powered and unpowered. The unpowered ones are the so called "first
generation amcoach" which Amtrak bought lots of for Metroliner service, it was
their first non heavyweight new stock order, perhaps their first new stock, I
forget. NJTransit and MTA both got some of these for use in their commuter
operations.

What is interesting about these are that many (all?) of them do not have
outside truck frames... the axle journals are on the inside of the wheels. That
makes their trucks look like some rapid transit stock. Almost all heavyweight
passenger cars (and thus most commuter stock which is modified heavyweight
stock) have outside frames. They also are more like Rapid Transit in their
overall dimensions. They look puny when towed by an F40PH or especially when
pulled by an SDP40... the engine is some 2-3 feet taller than the cars and a
good 6 inches a side wider.

In Lego if you want to model inside frames, you have to use the motor unit
without the decorative frames, or you have to use 12V wheels, but of course all
of those are simulated spoked which is not prototypical in this application.

++Lar



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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) Budd (...) powered, (...) was (...) I (...) Interesting. I put a search for Buddliner into Altavista, and the first entry it popped up was for the Lexington and West Cambridge railroad, whose right of way (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)

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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) or (...) of (...) ground (...) level (...) tracks. (...) There is also some commuter rail which is self powered, though I think Budliners are getting rare. I used to ride these into Boston quite (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.trains)

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