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Re: Santa Fe B-Unit: OK or not?
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lugnet.trains
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Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:01:34 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
> > I think someone is showing some of my work at BrickShelf. Other folk have this
> > happen, too? [snip]
> > Just wondering what you all think?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > later,
> > James Mathis
>
> Dear James,
> whenever a design gets under attack of a pirate, this is two things at the same
> time:
> it is of course a praise of the original design (why else should someone else
> copy it?).
> But at the same time this can be an aggressive act of piracy and therefore a
> very unfriendly behaviour.
>
> Between these two extreme poles (praise vs. piracy) there exist all kinds of
> grey shades as well.
>
> But the copy you have shown is definitely 99% piracy and I - in your case -
> would react on this by getting into contact with the pirate (if possible) and
> with Kevin to get the pictures deleted.
>
> What I even hate more in cases of piracy are copies like these:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330099273094
> my original:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=845724
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> and a second:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330108315873
> my original
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1335702
>
> This guy did the worst from my point of view: he behaves as if this is his
> design and he sells them for good prices. He makes money from my good will to
> share my designs via brickshelf.
>
> In contrast I appreciate copies where a credit is given to my name and a link is
> given to my original design (and no money is being generated from publishing the
> copy).
>
> Perfect are examples like this gallery:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=91259
> He tells explicitely tht these are copies of well known builders who he names.
> Gerben (=prefo) is a talented builder himself and has learned - in the beginning
> of his career - a lot of techniques by copying other designs.
>
> I have no problem with this copy either:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=manchetas
> (Although this guy gives no further credit as quoting my name)
>
> And this is a "grey" example. It looks like _very strongly_ influenced by my
> creation:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/freebee/Buildings/switchtower.jpg
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> And there are copies like this one: the builder calls it "My project of the
> br50", while the picture shows a creation which is a different wheel arrangement
> under the boiler and frame and cabine of my BR50 engine. So he claims this to be
> his one, while it is definitely not his.
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=98879
> And my impression is, that he might have copied Gerbens BR01 modification of my
> BR50 and this is the reason why the copy is not accurate....
>
> And speaking about giving credits: I try to do so whereever I "borrow" a design
> feature. But now and then I do actually forget to do so. For example I have not
> credited all the cases where I used the 2x2-round-boat-bottom-slding-tile with
> studs downwards orientation as steam dome on an engine boiler. This has been
> invented - as far as we know - by a talented LEGO master builder who now lives
> in Hawaii. ;-)
>
> Leg Godt!
>
> Ben
Ben;
Droped this guy an email yesterday through ebay and got this response:
Hi,
I understand the anger, I made a mistake about this model and I have already
talked this through with Ben Beineke.
Regards,
Yoni
Hopefully he has touched base with you regarding this. Cheers.
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| (...) [snip] (...) Dear Damon, thanks for your involvement in this case. Last week I have been at the "Power Gen" exhibition in Madrid so I could not answer earlier. When I was made aware about the above quoted act of piracy by a fellow LEGO fan, I (...) (17 years ago, 2-Jul-07, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: Santa Fe B-Unit: OK or not?
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| (...) [snip] (...) Dear James, whenever a design gets under attack of a pirate, this is two things at the same time: it is of course a praise of the original design (why else should someone else copy it?). But at the same time this can be an (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jun-07, to lugnet.trains)
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