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Re: Santa Fe B-Unit: OK or not?
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Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:06:17 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
I think someone is showing some of my work at BrickShelf.  Other folk have this
happen, too? • [snip]
Just wondering what you all think?

Thanks.

later,
James Mathis

Dear James,
whenever a design gets under attack of a pirate, this is two things at the same
time:
it is of course a praise of the original design (why else should someone else
copy it?).
But at the same time this can be an aggressive act of piracy and therefore a
very unfriendly behaviour.

Between these two extreme poles (praise vs. piracy) there exist all kinds of
grey shades as well.

But the copy you have shown is definitely 99% piracy and I - in your case -
would react on this by getting into contact with the pirate (if possible) and
with Kevin to get the pictures deleted.

What I even hate more in cases of piracy are copies like these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330099273094
my original:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=845724

and a second:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330108315873
my original
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1335702

This guy did the worst from my point of view: he behaves as if this is his
design and he sells them for good prices. He makes money from my good will to
share my designs via brickshelf.

In contrast I appreciate copies where a credit is given to my name and a link is
given to my original design (and no money is being generated from publishing the
copy).

Perfect are examples like this gallery:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=91259
He tells explicitely tht these are copies of well known builders who he names.
Gerben (=prefo) is a talented builder himself and has learned - in the beginning
of his career - a lot of techniques by copying other designs.

I have no problem with this copy either:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=manchetas
(Although this guy gives no further credit as quoting my name)

And this is a "grey" example. It looks like _very strongly_ influenced by my
creation:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/freebee/Buildings/switchtower.jpg

And there are copies like this one: the builder calls it "My project of the
br50", while the picture shows a creation which is a different wheel arrangement
under the boiler and frame and cabine of my BR50 engine. So he claims this to be
his one, while it is definitely not his.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=98879
And my impression is, that he might have copied Gerbens BR01 modification of my
BR50 and this is the reason why the copy is not accurate....

And speaking about giving credits: I try to do so whereever I "borrow" a design
feature. But now and then I do actually forget to do so. For example I have not
credited all the cases where I used the 2x2-round-boat-bottom-slding-tile with
studs downwards orientation as steam dome on an engine boiler. This has been
invented - as far as we know - by a talented LEGO master builder who now lives
in Hawaii. ;-)

Leg Godt!

Ben



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Santa Fe B-Unit: OK or not?
 
--snip-- (...) That is terribly dishonest thievery (there is no other word). Can you contact eBay and ask them to retract the auctions for selling stolen IP? By posting on BS you do not give up your rights and you own the copyright for the design (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jun-07, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: Santa Fe B-Unit: OK or not?
 
(...) Ben; Droped this guy an email yesterday through ebay and got this response: Hi, I understand the anger, I made a mistake about this model and I have already talked this through with Ben Beineke. Regards, Yoni Hopefully he has touched base with (...) (17 years ago, 25-Jun-07, to lugnet.trains)

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  Santa Fe B-Unit: OK or not?
 
I think someone is showing some of my work at BrickShelf. Other folk have this happen, too? My original work with the graphic assistance of Jeroen de Haan: (URL) a re-use and organization of the same images (I think) by Train417: (URL) a nice (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jun-07, to lugnet.trains)

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