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Re: Roller Doors into a Baggage Car
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lugnet.trains
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Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:32:26 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Alastair Disley wrote:
> James Mathis wrote:
> > Here is a potential method of inserting
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=50075 roller doors into a
> > baggage car>.
> >
> > For some time I have wanted to get the town garage roller doors into a baggage
> > car. I do realize that the proposed configuration linked to below would not
> > roll up all the way, but I think it is the closest I've come so far in realizing
> > an OK method of positioning the roller doors near to the outer wall of the
> > baggage car.
>
> It's a great idea, but needs refining. I've tried building it, and
> there are a few problems.
Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to investigate this construction, finding
and reporting its real-brick faults, and tackling some corrective design
approaches.
> The channels created by the 2x1 panels have
> too much freedom - the door can slide left and right in a 10 wide, but
> the garage door won't fit in 9 wide - 9.5 seems optimum!
Oooh, 1/2-brick length change. Maybe going for two side-by-side roll up doors
would return the overall length to an integer value?
> They also sag
> a bit because the channels are too wide. The offset supports for the
> wheels could be larger to give a better back to the channel - or just
> not offset until the wheels. The beam over the centre works OK, but you
> need two plates of clearance over it, and even then the whole door
> assembly is very prone to sticking. In theory, if it didn't stick, it
> could rise to about two thirds of its height before hitting the opposite
> door. In practice I'm afraid it never got near that...
Wow! Too much CAD time for me.
> Nice try though! I can't think of a way of improving the groove - I
> tried 1x4 bricks with horizontal grooves in, but even at 9.5 spacing the
> door stuck (too much play in the width). At 9 it won't move. Although
> the original garage grooved bricks might be too set back for you,
> without a 14 long top on, if you guide the door in the right direction
> when it's going up, it will slide back into the groove of its own accord
> when going down, albeit a bit bumpily, and assuming that the handle is
> still in the groove.
Great ideas.
> Time for bed!
Well documented, Alastair. Perhaps your dreams will realize a great solution.
I think this garage door style will look good once we find a good construction.
later,
James Mathis
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| James Mathis wrote: > Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to investigate this > construction, finding and reporting its real-brick faults, and > tackling some corrective design approaches. No problem - it's fun! >> The channels created by the 2x1 (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) It's a great idea, but needs refining. I've tried building it, and there are a few problems. The channels created by the 2x1 panels have too much freedom - the door can slide left and right in a 10 wide, but the garage door won't fit in 9 wide (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.trains)
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