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  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Moving from 4.5v to 12v had 'added value' in providing better control, many new features such as electric points, crossings etc. but more than anything else, it was the new expanding range which provided the most promise. If there is no 'new (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  New Crane Car MPD format
 
Hi all, I was a little bored this morning so I did up a CAD for the new train crane. I left off the bars in the middle since I couldn't get a decent look at them and they seemed to represent junk anyway so I figured people could do their own. Also (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) In the past 4.5V trains could have short baseplates with a 4 or 6 wheeled motor only. The now IR trains can only have 8 wheels and only a 30 stud long baseplate. In the past even 12V trains could be converted to 4.5V. Now not all 9V trains can (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
--SNIP-- (...) Hi Ondrew, Thanks for your comments. Here is the (URL). I'll make some instructions some time soon. Tim (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Hear, hear, those four wheeled Annie and Clarabels are a travesty created by the TV series ;-) (...) <SNIP> There (...) I think the 'with holes' one, Its backward compatible even if it doesn't look as good. Tim (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car & Green Parts
 
"Joseph A. O'Donnell" <JAODonnellPE@msn.com> wrote in message news:Isy0En.4Ey@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Late summer I believe is the release date for the new Trains. Seems like things are coming out a little earlier than their target (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car
 
"Joseph A. O'Donnell" <JAODonnellPE@msn.com> wrote in message news:IsxnIC.1AE4@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] You may be able to gather more detail from this PDF: (URL) can zoom in on it pretty tight! Mike -- Mike Walsh (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Still more
 
"Mathew Clayson" <mathew_impact1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Isn9pM.B4C@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] The battery container, the IR receiver, and the baseplate are all one unit. The motor is a separate unit, same (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.year.2006)
 
  Re: Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
(...) hey tim, very very well done! there are tons of details as there should be, and the 1x6 arch solution is something that would have probably taken me a month to think of. very cool. i'm wondering if you could post the ldraw file for this moc. (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Seven wide Koef Shunter
 
Hi all, Just sneaking an MOC in here between all the discussions on the new release sets. It's a little Koef shunter (switcher) which I built at seven-wide thinking at first it was a wide gauge train. (2 URLs) BS gallery> The trick on this is the (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.loc.de, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) To play devil's advocate for a moment - how is the situation different from the conversion from 4.5V to 12V? That needed conductor rails, points, crossing, motor and transformer. In cost terms, including average inflation of 3% for 16 years (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Surely for a Thomas train, if you make the bogie versions, Annie or Clarabel could use the IR unit baseplate? (URL) Then Thomas could be made using BBB wheels and he could have working rods too. I think it will be possible to bury the new IR (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car & Green Parts
 
(...) We may not be able to easily build red 4551s, but I will definitely build a GREEN one! The first two crane cars will probably go into the collection as designed. But then, we may have a good lifting device for a harbor or freight yard or ??. (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The New Crane Car
 
Yes, the new crane car is quite nice and I look forward to adding it to my collection. Another thing that has been looked over with the new sets is the part selection. While the IR based motor and battery bound baseplate are not ideal, the parts in (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  The New Crane Car
 
The new crane car seems to have been overlooked in all the discussion of the possible demise of the 9v system. It (they...at least two) will be added to my collection as soon as it hits the street or S@H. I started to build an ldraw model of it but (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:IsqHwF.1CFA@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) In the US, a battery operated toy can be labeled for a much younger age than one which plugs into an AC outlet. I believe the minimum age for (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) Got that right. Long live the community!!! Seems like now it may be the only thing keeping 9v from going kaput!! TRAINS!!!!!! M (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
Mike Walsh posted a link on the ILTCO list which has a much cleaner image. (URL) It appears that the dummy engine on the ICE train is 6 studs shorter then the working engine. They used a lt grey curved slope to fill in a gap. A small detail I hadn't (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine
 
"Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com> wrote in message news:IsuFqK.21G6@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Maybe, maybe not. It is entirely possible LEGO will have a cable with the new RJ jack on one end and the traditional (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
"Mathew Clayson" <mathew_impact1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Isw0Dr.1qw0@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) I agree completely. LEGO could (should?) take a lesson from the Brio/Thomas market. The reason it is successful is because (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) I'm hoping these aren't using the same signal encoding as the Manas- they've already reused those on some IR cars as well. I'd really like to be able to control Mana-powered devices on a layout independently from the trains. And as long as the (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) But moving to 9v from 4.5v gave you significant advantages and was an upgrade which added value. The new trains are already good - remote control, sound, cheap track, reverse loop capabilities, cab control etc. so the change to 9v rail powered (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I did, I started out with 4.5v, and moved to 9v when it came out. What I don't understand is the decision to produce a $100+ set whith this new technology, as a first kit. I thought the whole point was to produce a $50 set to get into the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  4W is cute!
 
Hi all, Cute sized 12V trains here: (URL) no idea what the text is about... Steve, can you help us out? ;-) Jeroen (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I'm no expert on the manufacturing process but I'd like to know if they have altered all the moulds for the track pieces and the clip-on motor frames. If these are completely new moulds then it shows there is a future supply potential for the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) I should have added that now is a very good time for trains too, but ironically, the good times I am talking about are all the train/LEGO clubs and the still active on-line community. Chris (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Agreed! I posted earlier that this 30 stud base totally wipes out all those cool Thomas and little trolley models. (Which, incidently, are amongst the most popular items we (LUCNY) run around the tracks at shows per visitor requests.) Even the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) Jumping in my way back machine, I remember when they had the battery powered 7722, a station, and a level crossing in the train section of TRU. It was just too cool. The ealy 90's were great too. My wife (then girfriend) bought me my 4563 the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I think there is a difference between TLG carrying on making and supplying parts for 9v trains and going to the trouble to design and release sets. From my own perspective, keeping me supplied with 9v train parts is 1000 times more important (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I suppose (and it would have made more sense to check your reply before adding my other one - I'm splitting my own train of thought here) that the new IR base length makes it harder for LEGO to produce a new engine that can sell on its own (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) There's still no definite answer. LEGO might not be willing to commit themselves. Think about it - if they said they'll supply 9V track forever, they can't keep that promise. If they say they'll make it for 2 more years, there'll be uproar (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Both. I guess what I'm asking is whether the entire, current 9v train line will be continued; produced alongside the new line of trains. (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) I feel compelled to ask; do you really mean "sets" or do you mean supplies of track, switches, 9v train motors, wheel sets and buffer beams, and perhaps track connecting wires and controllers? JB (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Forgive me if it has been covered before, but the primary question I'd like to ask is whether TLC will continue to produce the old 9v track and 9v motors - and then, if so, will new sets be released based on those old units? Thanks, Derek (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Loading cargo from and to train electrically
 
(...) What about putting a couple of minifigs on a 2 x 6 plate and using them as the "pushers". Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 BAYLUG (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) This whole discussion makes me long for the early 1990s, when 9-volt trains were in their infancy, and Toys R Us (at least my local one) not only had them IN STOCK, but actually placed them in the same area of the store with OTHER MODEL (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Modding plastic track to conducting track
 
(...) Already done, I did some experiments using some of the old 4.5v track. (URL) ran metal foil tape on top of the platic rails. (URL) The tape is tin plated copper for use in stain glass. The train motor ran fine. And with the new plastic track I (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.parts.mod, lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains // more new infos as quoted from 1000steine
 
In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Reynolds wrote: Hi Jonathan! [snip] (...) Sorry my mistake: I read the plate woud be 32 studs at 1000steine, but in fact it is 30 studs long. (...) Yes correct as Holger has already mentioned. Leg Godt! Ben P.s.: (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Loading cargo from and to train electrically
 
(...) How accurately? If you want to do this for a bunch of cycles, it would seem to me you need to control the position of the train quite exactly. The GBC train uses a simple bump sensor, and both Steve & I got train positioning to within 1 stud, (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Loading cargo from and to train electrically
 
(...) I played a bit with stopping a train at a station. I had a loop of track powered off from a normal speed regulator. One section of track next to the stop was isolated elecrically by putting tape over the rails before connecting them. I powered (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.trains)


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