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  Re: Compressionism
 
<Throws bucket of cold water on the whole 6-wide vs. 8-wide posturing...> Build what you like. If it runs, great! If not, either live with it, or rebuild it. My take is as long as the 'trainheads' recognize what I'm trying to build, I've done a good (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) That's interesting. I've never had the wonky weave problem. Perhaps it is because we go curve-straight-curve-straight (never 2 curves together). (...) Yeah, and bats will fly out of my butt! (...) <shrug> We build to run as well. And you will (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) If you were a tricky fellow, you could use it already. (URL) Jason Spears | (URL) House of Bricks> | (URL) BrickCentral> | (URL) MichLUG> | (URL) CLB> (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Trying for the record for fasted suggestion to "rejected" on LUGNET?(1) Go for it! Everybody's got to try to be good at something I guess. XFUT off-topic.fun 1 - "smilies" is already on the rejected list, I think... (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Too bad YOU don't care enough to take up the challenge presented by those articulations ;-) (...) I'm sure he's talking about 8-wides in general. Like, I dunno, not just his.... Also, while we're at it, you misspelled 'nobody' ;-P I think my (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Funny, when I see a fine looking (when on static display) 8 wide model on a curve, even a curve/straight/curve curve, the word that comes to mind is "ridiculous". If and when LEGO ever makes decent radii, I might switch. But till then, no. I (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) I know what you mean. When I see a fine compressed train, as in a James Mathis creation, the word that comes to my mind is "cute". LEGO train sets are "cute". In particular, I remember loving the cuteness of the (URL) Club Car> when it first (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) While I tend to agree with you, and I build to 'scale', I actually think that producing a compressed but right looking model is harder. While you avoid some of the problems of building to scale (need for more brick, problems with corners, etc) (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) I usually want it to do both... My Gls box cars & all my engines are pretty much uncompressed. If I look at (URL) , by Ludger Havighorst, I also see true-to-scale trains which run fine. It's just a matter of picking out a model which lends (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Seems to me you have a lot of problem(s) running LOL! ;-) Legoswami Highly subtle one, 50/50 chance you'll get it, IMO. (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Agreed, those models aren't built primarily for their running qualities. (...) Except that I found out (second hand, I wasn't there, I was in S'pore) that it's not as good a runner as I had hoped. Needs tuning on a big layout... Sigh. I agree (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) LOL, I know its Stefan's, I talk to him online. (I hope he doesn't hold my posting that link against me o_o) But I was unaware of the story behind the diesel, thanks for it. I am also aware that he has a big collection, the lucky devil. (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
To All, Interesting discussion. Anyhow, (...) Just to clarify on a few things - this is Stefan Garcia's creation, and IIRC, he was trying to get a DTI engine with all of his available orange, and this was the result. Stefan has done some remarkable (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) I think it all boils down to what PURPOSE you want your train MOC to have. Whether you want it to be just a beautiful display piece, to run on a layout, or hey, even a mixture of the two. A good example of the former would be this model (IMO) (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) With engines I always try to build to scale as far as possible, with coaches this usually isn't possible due to length vs curve radius and a few other practical limitations. Around 50-60 studs would be the max for length of any rail vehicle. (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Eggliners (was Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set))
 
(...) Eggliners are a good joke... But to me, they do NOT capture the essence of a train car. There is a place you have to know where to stop compressing and they went TOO far. That is why in my ATSF project, I made the cars LONGER than Lego chose (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Hey! That looks remarkably similar to Josh Baakko's 8-wide version! (URL) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
In lugnet.trains, Samarth Moray wrote: <snip> (...) Then you get this-- (URL) I have bookmarked and still go there every so often to have a boo at the wonderfulness that is 6 wide... Dave K (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) It's the age old debate b/w 6 and 8 (or other) wide. For me, there are three overwhelming factors for my love of 6 wide and 'selective compression'-- 1. since the minifig isn't to the same scale as a person in all dimensions, making a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) LMAO! Those are cute! I HATE it when I walk in late on an interesting thread and everthing I want to say has been said already :-( (I hope I don't offend anyone by posting these links, but IMO, these are examples where selective compression (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Eggliners (was Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set))
 
(...) I like mine sunny side up;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Eggliners (was Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set))
 
(...) Now they ARE cool! Tim (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Please. Are you implying that you wouldn't have literally 100,000s of bricks "left over"? Or are you speaking for anyone else? :-) (...) (URL) THESE> evoke the feeling of passenger cars as well, so what is the point? Are you about "evoking (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Personally, I try and avoid it like the plague. I consider building 6 wide trains an (unnecessary) exercise in width compression. Of all the types of compression, this particular one makes a train look wonky IMO. There is just no getting (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Agreed. Part of the skill (and fun) in building anything real in Lego is to leave in what is essential to the character and leave out what you can get away with to ensure functionality. So, the skill required is beyond simply making something (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Less windows, in my view. Typically, most modelers feel compression works better by having less of a repeating element instead of making the element smaller (you could do some searching of back issues of model railroad magazines for articles (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Just a thought, brought on by you mentioning leaving windows out. Some European HO manufacturers compress the length of long coaches in HO. They do this by having the basic scale of 1:87 but having the length modelled to 1:100. this means that (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Can't speak for anyone else, but I see it as just about mandatory to do anything useable, and still have bricks left over. Replicating every window, every seat, every rivet is just not possible, so leave some out, as long as the feeling is (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) I think it depends on what you are trying to acheive. In this example Steve has used compression pretty well, its not as a compressed as a Lego designed train but he has managed to chop a considerable amount out without it looking 'wrong' (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Compressionism (D&RGW coach set)
 
(...) Hi Steve, I just agree the positive feedback posted in this thread. These coaches look great and, more important than anything else, you seems having fun to build them. (I particularly like the color scheme (aka livery) :-)) One point I am (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: D&RGW coach set
 
(...) One thing I did to get them straight was to make the sticker the height of a whole brick (I was sticking them on whole bricks), I printed cut lines on the sticker sheets to make sure that the lettering was straight on the sticker. I know what (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  2005 Maersk Sealand IN STOCK!
 
I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet. I just checked the LEGO Shop at Home site and the 2005 Maersk Sealand ship is now available in the US: (URL) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.promo, lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
 
  Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
 
(...) that D&RGW was a late entrant into Amtrak, as it was run by them for a while and was a money maker for them. I'm not up on the history of it and whether they still run it or whether an excursion company does, or what. (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: D&RGW coach set
 
(...) [Snip a lot] Thanks for sharing these pictures Steve! Your coaches are really beautiful. I love designs with more than just two (or three) colours. And as Larry mentioned: these stairs are really worth to be copied! Regards, Ben (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
 
FYI there is also a "ski train" running from Denver into the Rockies that is painted the D&RGW colors. Of course that falls into the excursion catagory, but must be a site to see! (URL) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: D&RGW coach set
 
I LOVE constructive criticism!!!!! I really appreciate the time and effort that it takes! This is my first time using stickers rather than water slide decals and I kind of don't like them! So you obviously picked up on that vibe. I have some (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
 
(...) Well seeing as how they are 60 miles apart and South Bend (which is serviced by South Shore) is 90 miles from Chicago, I'd think they are different cities. But what do I know? Jason Spears | (URL) House of Bricks> | (URL) BrickCentral> | (URL) (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
 
  Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
 
Thanks, Larry, and everyone else. I'm not sure what I saw - several matching passenger cars with an F-class locomotive in the same livery. Seems like I used to occasionaly see a UP or SP passenger train when I lived in Austin, too. Probably private (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: D&RGW coach set
 
I'm going to reply to my own post, bad form I know but I seems to do it all the time! What I meant to get across with my last paragraph, but completely failed was that I feel that this is like a great TLC/TLG set, in the same way that the Santa Fe (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
 
(...) South Shore is probably commuter, and Metra certainly is commuter, so not covered under the enabling legislation which applies to "scheduled revenue intercity service" (Most normal people would call Michigan City a different city than Chicago (...) (20 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)


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