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(...) No one is arguing that a drop center doesn't make sense for a bi level. It just doesn't make sense in a single level, at least not in American Practice. American single level cars have floors that are above the trucks, from one vestibule to (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) to (...) They're also used in the Canadian GO Train cars which are City/Suburban transit cars pulled by Diesel Electrics. Calum (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) by (...) If it wasn't for this piece, I'd still be worried, I don't see a single new piece in the other two sets. As for the cherry picker, anyone know what that signal is supposed to be? I've never seen one like that. And what is that little (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Good point -- I've been afraid that trains were on their way out for the last year or so. (...) I liked that one, too. Steve (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I was told that there would be extra train sets but only available by mail-order. Just what the sets are, I do not know. I shall be asking though at our next meeting. Grahame Reid (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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My thoughts on the 4561 express: Given that Lego apparently uses playability as a requisite design constraint, the design makes sense. It appears you can load and unload the cars, and the cockpit design of the engine, makes it easy to get the (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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I'm glad to see the 4519 crossover at last, shows some commitment to trains by LEGO. Also I quite like the 4541 Road N' Rail Cherry Picker Truck, I'll definitely get one of those. The 4561 Railway Express, on the other hand, is absolutely terrible, (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, that's a little harsh in my opinion. I would have to say 4559 takes that prize. (1) I can see much more parts potential in this one and no doubt will get 2-4 of them for parts and one to be 9V complete. 1 - And of course this is a (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Grahame? I doubt it though. (...) But this is not a double decker. If you want drop center, TLG, then design a nice US commuter train like chicago area pushpull, or a nice US long distance bilevel, like Amtrak Superliner, or some euro (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Unless they have foolishly connected the two sets of crossing tracks. Now wouldn't that really suck :) Jasper (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) worthwhile (...) sure (...) On looking closer at the scan it appears to be black drop down plates. My guess is that the 2 cars are loaded via the ramp into the centre of the back coach and that the fold out boxes sit in both coaches at the (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) snip (...) Hi All, To add to the complexity, with the introduction of 4519 crossover, will it be possible to have to separate train systems powered by separate controllers which crossover one another, once, twice etc. Mark H. (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I like the coaches. With a slight colour change to all blue and replacing the engine with my own class DC loco I can model the Bay Express. A train that travels from Wellington to Napier, NZ. This train and other scenic route trains in NZ (ie (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Agreed. The engine is definitely my least favorite part, the two passenger cars, especially if they come with the drop down train plates, may be worthwhile as starting points for a customized blue/white passenger train. I'm pretty sure it is (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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Tony Kilaras wrote in message ... (...) Yeah. I'm disappointed too. I think, however, with a completely new engine cab in a similar color scheme it might turn out to be a nice passenger train after all. I imagine there will be several MOCs posted (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <366A0CD3.36DB0DC7@c...AM.com>... (...) Frankly, I think that this new train is without exaggeration the WORST I have EVER seen. (26 years ago, 6-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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Some more things to add after seeing the LEGO DIRECT Catalogue: I think the windows on the 4561 are standard panes of glass as shown on the Riot Police Soccer set and many others. The 4519 Cross Over looks pretty good, the black square in the middle (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Notice this is 4561 is pictured. Maybe Grahame is referring to a 4560 which may be limited to certain countries... (...) Well I think the drop-centre plates are used in European double-deck trains to get the extra room. (...) Much better than (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Sounds like a fairly intricate scheme - especially if it automatically goes back to work again, instead of requiring you to replace the fuse, which is the usual option. Good work by Lego, I guess. I'll open mine up one time and check :) BTW: (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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which is available July 1, seen here: (URL) what Grahame said about it, I was expecting something a bit different. Lego seems to have continued this "futuristic" theme that was started in 4559. It appears to me that this set does NOT use train (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
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