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Re: best way to support elevated plates?
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lugnet.build, lugnet.town
Date: 
Fri, 13 May 2005 16:50:09 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Joe Strout wrote:
   We’re thinking about raising up half of our town, so that we can have the train run into a tunnel and be a subway train on the elevated half and a surface train on the other half (with the two halves joined by a hill). This will also allow us to make underground parking garages and whatnot.

Our town is composed mostly of road plates, with some other 32x32 green and gray plates thrown in the mix. Thinking about how to elevate and support these stably has got me scratching my head. We have plenty of Duplo for the columns, but I need a surface under the plates strong enough for us to build on (including not-too-gentle kids pushing down on things to anchor them to the plates).

1x16 technic bricks cost about $0.20 each, and by my first design, I need about 20 of these for each road plate. That’s $4 just for the beams, plus the other bricks and Duplo, which I haven’t priced yet, but it probably comes to something like $6 total. So a 3x4-plate section of town would cost over $50 to elevate.

That’s not terrible, but it’s enough to make me hesitate. Is there a standard plan for doing this sort of thing? Has someone evaluated different ways to support big plates, and found a minimum-cost design?

Thanks, - Joe

I’m working on some multi level displays with members of COLTC. Here is some ideas that I have come up with. The main thing was cost then sturdiness.

I use 8x16 soccer bricks that were real cheap. Then place our Base plates on them. I have come up with different ways of supporting the soccer bricks.

For areas that will have trains running underneath I use these modules between the train tracks. I then attach Technic beams to connect over the tracks. I then place the soccer bricks on the Technic beams. I use lift arms to keep the pillars compressed so they do not fail. Once the whole unit is done all the flimsy 2x2 pillars work together to create a strong unit. No wobbles or anything. It’s like the unit turns in to one big brick. I have a 2x5 Base plate module done that I can place my arms through the train tunnels and grab just 2 of the pillars to lift up. And the whole unit is supported with out breaking.



Use of 2x4 bricks with axles. At this time the picture does not show and linkage between levels of bricks. I will be adding lift arms to keep the modules together. All in all very sturdy once linkage is installed. A hard bump could fracture the unit. So far it has always been easy to re connect.



More examples of 2x4 with axles plus a different type. The module on top uses those soccer bricks throughout with 2x2 between. I then used lift arms to keep the module compressed. I have dropped this one on carpet and it did not break apart. I just needed to press the parts firmly back in place.




Main Brickshelf folder, more pictures of these finished modules after the show

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=123090

Enjoy,

Gallagher



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