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Re: 8448 worth it?
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Sat, 3 Aug 2002 06:09:43 GMT
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Jake,
No prob. Glad I coule help. You're probably not going to find the 8448
for $75 though...but here's to hoping that you do.
I don't have the silver champion but I've read quite a bit about it and
checked the inventory and all that. Your view of it seems pretty popular.
It obviously is not 4wd. It has one damped pneumatic element (canopy above
the engine opens up) but then again, the 8448 has a similar design for its
racer alternate model. One thing that the 8458 does have that I'm
interested in is a true wishbone suspension system. However, it's not
really practical from a lego construction standpoint and when I say
interested, I mostly just want to look at it/play with it and then be done
with it. And $170 is really way to much...for that amount of money, go Buy
It Now an 8480, get two styling packs from S@H and try to build an F1
yourself with your 8466 parts :) I've read somewhere that for the price of
an 8458, you might as well just get another 8448 and a couple of styling
packs...did I mention the 8458 has a two-speed transmission? Yeah..it's got
a v10 though. Whoopdy ;)
Hope you get your $75 8448 :),
Luke
"Jake Rentar" <B2FUTR2@aol.com> wrote in message
news:H095FL.87A@lugnet.com...
> Thanks Luke, you really helped the decision-making process on my side. • You
> sound like you know what's going on so I'll keep an eye out for the
> 8448....but only if it's less than $75 =D
>
> Before you mentioned it I had already researched the 8480 shuttle. Seems
> like a must-have for a technic nut like me. Unfortunately I can't seem to
> find a reasonable price for it anywhere! (I've been looking on ebay and
> bricklink for months as well as discontinued lego sites). I've got a MISB
> Off-roader which I'd be willing to trade for a shuttle but you can get one
> cheap now at shop@home so I'll hang on to it.
>
> By the way, do you know anything about that 8458 silver champion? I've • heard
> it's just some looks. I was only granted a glance at one in the Downtown
> Disney lego center -- looked pretty big. $170 seems a bit pricey for a • 1400
> piece count model, 200 of which are friction pins.
>
> Thanks!!
> Jake
>
>
> In lugnet.technic, Luke Ma writes:
> > Jake,
> > Well...I do own the 8448 and 8466 and I've put an RCX and motors on • the
> > 8448 so here's my take on it:
> > I came out of the dark ages through the 8448 (much as you have with • the
> > 8466) So there's a special place for it in my heart :) I bought the 8448
> > with something in mind: I was working on a project to test out a • Mindstorms
> > compass sensor. The concept was to motorize the 8448, remote control it
> > with a second brick, and then upon reaching its destination, the 8448 • would
> > be able to navigate itself between home and destination... Anyway, after
> > many minute modifications, I managed to get 4 motors into the 8448. One • for
> > steering, 3 for driving. The thing traveled at a scaled speed of about • 15
> > mph I think (in other words, something like 1.5 mile per hour in real • life).
> > One motor also had barely enough power to steer unless you gear it down • like
> > lego does...but then steering is really slow. So in the end, I had to • build
> > a more robotic vehicle to test out the sensor...car-type vehicles would • not
> > work, and especially not the 8448.
> > So my conclusion is that like many of the big technic sets, they work
> > and they demonstrate how mechanics are supposed to work...but just add up
> > all the friction between the gears, transmission, the v8, the • tires...it's
> > not too much fun as an RC-type toy. For $100 though, I would definitely • get
> > it (supposedly S@H has a limited supply available again...for $130 I • would
> > assume). In my mind, even $130 is probably worth it but I'm sentimental.
> > The only real difference between the 8466 and 8448 is the style. • 8466
> > is a big truck and 8448 is a car. 8466 uses mostly rounded beams while • 8448
> > uses a few more normal technic bricks. 8466 has more styling panels (I
> > think) but 8448 doesn't lag too far behind. I think that if you have the
> > 8466, you might want to spend a chunk of money on something else that's a
> > bit further from what you already have (maybe an 8480...). There's no
> > denying though that the 8448 is cool. Building it might be a bit less
> > satisfying if you've had the 8466 experience already but it's still a joy • to
> > build...plus, if you're into the whole customization thing, there are a • good
> > number of alternate models. Just don't expect to be impressed by any of • the
> > mechanics, because the 8466 pretty much has it all and more (more
> > differentials, the 4x4 special elements, better shocks, and really • friggin'
> > big and cool tires).
> > Anyway, enough of my rant...hope this helps a little.
> > Sonic
> >
> > "Jake Rentar" <B2FUTR2@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:H08yL2.Guw@lugnet.com...
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > I've got 8880 and 8466...both at a bargain. IMHO, 8466 is the • better
> > > of the two but I still appreciate the engineering that went into the • 8880.
> > > 8466 seems to have most of the features of the 8448, but I can't seem • to
> > > motorize that 4x4 and I really wanted to use my RCX for something like • that.
> > >
> > > My question: Is the 8448 worth it...?
> > >
> > > For $200?
> > > For $170?
> > > For $130?
> > > For $100?
> > > For $75?
> > > Or should I try to get it at a garage sale?
> > >
> > > If you do own a few big technic cars (including 8448) I'd very much
> > > appreciate your opinion!
> > >
> > > Thanks!!
> > > Jake
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| Everyone seems to enjoy the shuttle and it looks like a well-rounded set with nice electric and fiber optics. What's the cheapest I could probably ever find an 8480 MISB...? (...) (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.technic)
| | | Re: 8448 worth it?
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| (...) Snip... Just a few comments about the Silver Champion. There is no transmission. The V10 engine drives the rear differential, and then out to the wheels through universal joints. I believe LEGO designed the suspension arms (URL) (9 long strut) (...) (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.technic)
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| Thanks Luke, you really helped the decision-making process on my side. You sound like you know what's going on so I'll keep an eye out for the 8448....but only if it's less than $75 =D Before you mentioned it I had already researched the 8480 (...) (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.technic)
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