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Hi! Okay, so here's the deal, Tim Courtney from LDraw.org has asked me to change the name of Technic MOTM into something _not_ Model Of The Month since he feels MOTM is "an important part of LDraw.org's recognition". I _will_ change the name despite (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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COTLC - Construction of the Lunar Cycle (this way we get 13 in a year and so go 'one better' than LDraw!) :-) William -----Original Message----- From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway...net.com]On Behalf Of Tobbe Arnesson Sent: 03 March (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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I've got a few suggestions for The Technic model of the month. Hope you consider these... TRTM- Top rated technic model TSTM- Technic set of the month MTSC- Monthly Technic Set choice TMTM- This month's top model and of course TBTSIESBWCCIMOTMBTLDM- (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) ROFLMAO!! that's too funny... :-) I apologize for the quick hit-and-run post without replying to Tobbe's original one. I have to leave right now, I will expound on that one later when I get home. I am off to the NILTC show in Palatine, IL to (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Set would be confusing with official LEGO sets I think. (...) LOL! /Tobbe (URL) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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How about a Large, Dramatic, Realistic, Awesome or Wonderful Technic Monthly Competion? That of course would be the LDRAW-TMC!!! :-))) William -----Original Message----- From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway...net.com]On Behalf Of Tobbe (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I think Tim's being kind of picky, but I agree it might be confusing having two sites with the same acronym. How about TMM = Technic MOC/Model of the Month? --Bram Bram Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu www.bldesign.org (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) That's a good suggestion. Thanks! More suggestions folks? /Tobbe (URL) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) How about: EXPERT BUILDER of the MONTH for two reasons: 1) Expert Builder is, of course, the original name of the Technic series of sets. 2) This name would recognize not only the model, but the model's creator. Or would, in fact, allow you to (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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"Tobbe Arnesson" <tnt@arnesson.nu> skrev i meddelandet news:3c824db4.264878...net.com... (...) MTC - Monthly Technical Contest (No need to tell whose, we all know it!) MoTeC - As above TMTC - Tobbe's Monthly Technical Contest ToM TeC - As above TTMC (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) This is not just picky, this is completely out of line considering that if Lego acted the same way (and there are legal precendents from other companies), we would have no Lugnet and, of course, no LDRAW. How about TCM - Technic Creation(s) of (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Not exactly - neither Lugnet nor Ldraw actually have the word LEGO in them. And note that LEGO *have* acted exactly that way WRT legOS. ROSCO (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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In lugnet.technic, Tobbe Arnesson wrote: [snip] Tim, Did you actually talk to the other guys of ldraw.org before trying to use the name to bully Tobbe? I mean, ldraw.org isn't your personal site, is it? Is there a committee that makes these (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) !
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(...) I like it! Does it belong somewhere else I should know about 8-) (...) I'm thinking TiM - _T_echn_i_c of the _M_onth and since every one whos not into Technic has something against Tim I don't think they'll mind :) I like acronyms that can be (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) You are wrong here ROSCO, LDraw stands for 'LEGO Draw' and LUGNET stands for 'LEGO USers Group Network', so you see both actually do use the word LEGO. Just for the record I don't have a comment/stance of this MOTO 'brickering' that is going (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) It may be an issue, it may not. TCM is the trademark logo of the cable channel 'Turner Classic Movies' (...) Or TOM, _T_echnic _O_f the _M_onth Just a thought from an outsider. --Anthony (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I agree with Ross here - the difference being, LUGNET and LDraw use LEGO as a part of an acronym. Where the Technic MOTM used the name Model of the Month within it fully spelled out. I think its different enough to make a distinction. Anyways, (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Interesting! (...) I'd like to keep my name out of it, it's the Technic community's contest, I'm just the originator/administrator as is :) (...) LOL! (...) *smiles* Perhaps a bit excotic? :) (...) I'm surprised you did not ask for 10% of my (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) well, here's my 2 cents: 1) no one can own words. An artist (I forget her name) presented Charles Dickens' A Tale of Two Cities IN ITS ENTIRETY, to make precisely that point. In the ensuing court battles, she won. (no joke) 2) Model of the (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) FWIW, Model Railroader(tm) had a "Model of the Month" for many years, may still do for all I know (I'm no longer a subscriber). Not sure what that implies, just thought I'd throw it out as a perhaps useful bit of info. (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Larry may not be sure what it implies but I think I know what it implies to me... To me it implies that anyone trying to trademark a name as generic as "Model of the Month" is being silly at best. What if Fashion Magazine decided to start a (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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A few others to add to the list: ToadAuto.com MOTM: (URL) Model Building Mania MOTM: (URL) Car List Best MOTM: (URL) Model of the Month: (URL) Hobby Model of the Month Club: (URL) there is Joe Lauher's Construction Toy Homepage which has a MOTM (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) For the record, I agree with the word ownership sentiment. I did not at any point in time imply a word ownership in any legal sense. I simply made a polite request of someone and explained why I was making that reqest. Tobbe happened to accept (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Did I use the word 'trademark' once? (...) Look at the context of their use of the words as I explained in my last post. (...) This comment has nothing constructive in it, it is only childish and spiteful. I have attempted to steer this (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) And re-reading this, it could be interpreted that I thought Paul was being destructive. That's not what I meant. I meant to exempt him from that and say that I felt his comments were constructive. Doh! -Tim (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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in all fairness to tim, there's nothing WRONG about his opinion.... and Tobbe is gracious to change his motm name (another lugnetter uses MotMoment) so, no harm, no foul. -paul (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) And (...) No, I'm not (IMO). (...) No, they are names, one letter of which stands for LEGO. They do not contain the word LEGO. Why else do you think LEGO leaves them alone, while asking the developers to rename legOS? ROSCO FUT: .o-t.debate (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well Tobbe, When I started on rec.toys.lego (actually, it was alt.toys.lego) Joe Lauher had a Model of the Month segment where he'd pick a cool set and write about it: (URL) began in 1994 and ended in 1997. Obviously I'm not to judge what (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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I'm going to throw in my "dos centavos". FOR LEGO SAKE! This "MODEL OF THE MONTH" feces (putting nicely) is getting to be about as bad as those dorkheads who couldn't agree wether the 21st century began in 2000 or 2001! This "whatever of the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) *nods* When I wrote I had agreed and was looking for a new name, not a debate. I included the reasons, that's it. Something I kind of regret today since this whole matter is going out of hand... Mina två ören (Swedish: My two ören) /Tobbe (URL) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) All publicity is good publicity :) How about "t.c.f.k.a.m.o.t.m" (The competiton formerly known as Model of he month) or "I can't believe it's not Motm!" Steve (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Shouldn't that be rendered as some form of graphic? (Like "squiggle-fishhook-tee", aka Prince) How about a Technic brick on a Calendar? William (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) William, you are of couse completely right that it shoud be a graphic. Now Prince's squiggle is a strange & useless contorted device. Therefore we should of course use a silouette of more or less any piece of bionicle :) Steve (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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ROFL William PS - You can borrow my flame-proof suit if you like! -----Original Message----- From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway...net.com]On Behalf Of Steven lane Sent: 05 March 2002 16:34 To: lugnet.technic@lugnet.com Subject: Re: (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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In lugnet.technic, Tobbe Arnesson writes (quoting Tim Courtney): (...) Actually, I wouldn't mind. (...) Personally, I think your choice makes a lot of sense, and I agree with you that it would be good for the community to have a simple and (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic) !
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I actually think L-Draw is in the wrong here. They use the 'MOTM' meaning Model of the Month..we all know that. My case is, Lego is used to create 'Models'.. L-Draw is a cad, graphics system, which in my eys does not create lego models at all. You (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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To be honest, if I went looking for something called the Technic MOTM, I'd probably go to ldraw.org first to find it. So, I think you can call it what you want, but something else might be better. "MoTEC" just sounds so cool, how can you resist? (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I'm not resisting, I've been occupied the past week. Hope to fix it tomorrow :) I still have not decided on the name... /Tobbe (URL) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) He's alive! All this time I've been mis-pronouncing "loog-net" over and over in my head, just to flush him out. All we had to do was use his name in vain! KL P.S. just kidding about the "loog-net" thing :) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) They are, but not for the reasons you state. (...) But LDraw *does* create LEGO models. Whether a model's physical parameters are stored in ABS molecules or mathematical data is irrelevant. Either method is an equally valid representation of (...) (23 years ago, 9-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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This thread got me thinking. As you may or may not know, my site is called 'LEGO on my Mind'. (URL) visual motto of this site has always been a picture of a man with bricks for brains. After it had been around a couple of years, another site (...) (23 years ago, 20-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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