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Subject: 
Technic MOTM needs a new name.
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Date: 
Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:41:02 GMT
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Hi!

Okay, so here's the deal, Tim Courtney from LDraw.org has asked me to
change the name of Technic MOTM into something _not_ Model Of The
Month since he feels MOTM is "an important part of LDraw.org's
recognition".

I _will_ change the name despite I feel it would be much better for
the AFOL community if LDraw.org were a tad more magnanimity about the
whole deal and -as I do- saw a lot of "(theme) MOTM" as a good thing
for the community.

However that's not the case and they obviously think LDraw.org is the
most important thing here.

So, please give me your name suggestions!

My only suggestion at the moment is T-MOM which, for the sake of the
whole deal, is short for Technic MOC of the Month instead of Model Of
the Month as it used to be. This was the first name I gave the contest
but I changed it prior to announcing it.

Tim suggests "Technic MOC of the Month" which I find rather amusing
since it with ease can be truncated into Technic MOTM :)

Here's Tim's letter in full:

"Hi Tobbe -
I just became aware of your Technic Model of the Month site today, it
appears to only have been running for a month.  Its a great
competition for building, but I have some concerns.

"Model of the Month" and its corresponding abbreviation "MOTM" have
become an important part of LDraw.org's recognition in the AFOL
community.  We have been using the name for almost 3 years now as
well.  I see your use of the name as possibly diluting that
recognition, and encouraging others to come out with "(theme) MOTM"
which would be disastrous for the original Model of the Month in
terms of instant recognition and association with LDraw.org.  I also
noticed that you used the LDraw.org MOTM name to promote your contest,
"...not only time to select the best MOTM on LDraw.org, but also time
to vote for the best _Technic_MOTM."

I would like to respectfully ask that you consider a new name for your
contest and you adopt the new name you have chosen.  There are other
ways of expressing the same thing - Technic MOC of the Month, Technic
Design of the month, etc etc...  It should be of minimal impact to
your own recognition, because your contest has only been running for a
month.  We have spent years building up that name, I hope you
understand.

I feel strongly that this will encourage others to create "(theme)
MOTM" contests, and that will spell the end of the unique recognition
of the MOTM name/abbreviation to LDraw.org.  It would be a similar
situation if the Cool LEGO Site of the Week were still running, and
someone else decided to make the "Cool LEGO Technic Site of the Week,"
not associated or endorsed by LUGNET/Todd Lehman at all.  I'm sure he
would have a similar problem with that.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Cc: Terry Keller, MOTM/Contests manger

Tim Courtney - tim@ldraw.org
http://www.ldraw.org - Centralized LDraw Resources"

The only thing I'd like to reply to in his letter that's not answered
in my text above the quote is his notice about me using their name to
promote my contest, I felt I was promoting their contest while
promoting mine when I wrote that :))

However I did select the name Technic MOTM because everybody in the
community know what MOTM is and can figure out what Technic MOTM is
all about...

Well, back to building my entry for this month .)
/Tobbe

http://www.arnesson.nu/lotek/



Message has 12 Replies:
  RE: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
COTLC - Construction of the Lunar Cycle (this way we get 13 in a year and so go 'one better' than LDraw!) :-) William -----Original Message----- From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway...net.com]On Behalf Of Tobbe Arnesson Sent: 03 March (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  RE: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) I think Tim's being kind of picky, but I agree it might be confusing having two sites with the same acronym. How about TMM = Technic MOC/Model of the Month? --Bram Bram Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu www.bldesign.org (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) How about: EXPERT BUILDER of the MONTH for two reasons: 1) Expert Builder is, of course, the original name of the Technic series of sets. 2) This name would recognize not only the model, but the model's creator. Or would, in fact, allow you to (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
"Tobbe Arnesson" <tnt@arnesson.nu> skrev i meddelandet news:3c824db4.264878...net.com... (...) MTC - Monthly Technical Contest (No need to tell whose, we all know it!) MoTeC - As above TMTC - Tobbe's Monthly Technical Contest ToM TeC - As above TTMC (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) This is not just picky, this is completely out of line considering that if Lego acted the same way (and there are legal precendents from other companies), we would have no Lugnet and, of course, no LDRAW. How about TCM - Technic Creation(s) of (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
In lugnet.technic, Tobbe Arnesson wrote: [snip] Tim, Did you actually talk to the other guys of ldraw.org before trying to use the name to bully Tobbe? I mean, ldraw.org isn't your personal site, is it? Is there a committee that makes these (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) well, here's my 2 cents: 1) no one can own words. An artist (I forget her name) presented Charles Dickens' A Tale of Two Cities IN ITS ENTIRETY, to make precisely that point. In the ensuing court battles, she won. (no joke) 2) Model of the (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  fairness to tim
 
in all fairness to tim, there's nothing WRONG about his opinion.... and Tobbe is gracious to change his motm name (another lugnetter uses MotMoment) so, no harm, no foul. -paul (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
(...) Well Tobbe, When I started on rec.toys.lego (actually, it was alt.toys.lego) Joe Lauher had a Model of the Month segment where he'd pick a cool set and write about it: (URL) began in 1994 and ended in 1997. Obviously I'm not to judge what (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
In lugnet.technic, Tobbe Arnesson writes (quoting Tim Courtney): (...) Actually, I wouldn't mind. (...) Personally, I think your choice makes a lot of sense, and I agree with you that it would be good for the community to have a simple and (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic) ! 
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
I actually think L-Draw is in the wrong here. They use the 'MOTM' meaning Model of the Month..we all know that. My case is, Lego is used to create 'Models'.. L-Draw is a cad, graphics system, which in my eys does not create lego models at all. You (...) (23 years ago, 8-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
  Re: Technic MOTM needs a new name.
 
This thread got me thinking. As you may or may not know, my site is called 'LEGO on my Mind'. (URL) visual motto of this site has always been a picture of a man with bricks for brains. After it had been around a couple of years, another site (...) (23 years ago, 20-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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