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Re: Pneumatic Arm
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Date: 
Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:53:43 GMT
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Hi Kevin,
> 
>   Congratulations on a beautiful creation!  I like it a lot.  I appreciate all
> the thought that went into the design.

Thanks ;o)
> 
>   I'm also envious of all your clear pneumatic hose ;^)

Here is their source: http://news.lugnet.com/technic/?n=11759

> 
>   Studless beams work well in some applications, and not well in others.  As I'm
> sure you know, I'm a studless beam advocate, but I'm also a studded beam
> advocate.  For compact, lightweight structures, studless beams have an advantage
> over studded beams.  For structures where you need to worry about static
> stresses and strains (which your arm has especially when fully extended),
> studded beams abnd plates are superior.

I'm convinced too now... but maybe someone has found (will find) a way to build
decent studless braced structures?

>   Studless beams have much more flexion than studded beams.  To overcome the
> flexion you need to use cross bracing.


I had not much trouble in one direction, but couln't find ways to properly
attach bracing in the orthogonal direction. So the structure was much too
flexible. Unfortunately I forgot to photograph the studless version before
dismantling it...

>   Did the connections between the beams fail, or did the beams fail themselved?
> Or was it that the structure twisted?

Twisting was the main problem...

> 
>   The structure below shows your typical cross bracing arrangement.  You will
> want cross bracing in all three dimensions.

I did cross bracing, but stud/hole connection is stiffer that hole/pin/hole (to
place beams end to end) and much stiffer than hole/pin/hole/pin/hole I had to
use for bracing in one direction :-(

That said, I find myself using more and more studless constructions - the arm
itself is mainly studless!

Philo



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(...) <snip for bandwidth> (...) My answers to Technic Towers O' Power and Orthogonal Bracing: Method 1- Axles, Axle Connectors and Studless: 1 square segment = 4x Constructed as follows Verticals using Axle Connector #2 Alternating 90 degrees with (...) (22 years ago, 15-Dec-04, to lugnet.technic)

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(...) Philo, Congratulations on a beautiful creation! I like it a lot. I appreciate all the thought that went into the design. I'm also envious of all your clear pneumatic hose ;^) Studless beams work well in some applications, and not well in (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jul-04, to lugnet.technic)

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