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Re: What do you think would happen if........
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Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:00:08 GMT
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In lugnet.space, David Laswell wrote:
   In lugnet.space, Markham Carroll wrote:
   If there is artificial gravity, the g-forces of the rocket-powered rope would
   be too much for them to hold onto.





My understanding from all of this is that the rope is rocket-powered to get to the lounge, not to go away from it. That would even help with that whole problem of the rope being able to continue “downward” through the explosive decompression.

   Actually, even if there wasn’t any artificial gravity, the fact that the rope going back to Lafiel’s ship at such a great speed would give them a great amount of whiplash.





The explosive decompression through the newfound hole in the canopy would provide a large assist in breaking them free of any localized artificial gravity, which should end somewhere just within the space contained by the broken canopy (after all, you don’t want to collect random space junk all over the pretty window, do you?).

Whiplash is caused by having your head bobble back and forth or side to side, not by being pushed downward, or against anything that can help resist the whole bobblehead effect (it should be noted that naval aircraft carriers use afterburner backwash and a high-speed cable launcher to essentially fling aircraft off the deck fast enough to cause the pilots to black out for a brief amount of time as their blood tries to reorient itself, and the pilots don’t get whiplash). As long as they weren’t being stupid and gawking upwards when the rope starts getting reeled in, it wouldn’t be so bad. The best thing to do would be to grab on immediately opposite each other, and tuck both of your heads forward to brace against the other person’s shoulder. And hope he doesn’t lose his grip.

I see. And they had their eyes really shut and their heads were at regular level.

  
   It’d be like grabbing the leash of a dog as it runs past you. A really,
   really fast dog.





Not really. First of all, the rocket on the rope should be holding it down in the room against the rush of escaping air, so they’ve got a bit of time to grab onto it. Second, if the winch system is allowed to ramp up to speed instead of instantly kicking into overdrive, the relative G-forces of being hauled out of that room should be relatively low. The big question is if the rocket was kind enough to shut off just before they grabbed on, so it wouldn’t be toasting their feet through the entire ride.

It was shut off before it was wound in.

  
   The physics of it all really seem iffy





I’m not saying that it’s probable, just that it’s minutely possible. Odds are something would go horribly awry, and at least one of the escapees (most likely both) would end up dying an unpleasant death.

   but hey; it’s anime.

Right.

  



Indeed it is, and these preposterous storylines are one of the three main reasons why I rarely ever watch anime (the other two are the silly conventions, like giant eyes = good guy, and the reduction in animation quality caused by too many budget constraints, like speed lines being used to convey the idea of motion because they can’t afford to draw buildings).

  
   Where else does constant thrust equal constant velocity in zero-gravity





I could be wrong, but I was always under the impression that Star Wars invented that concept.

   and items bulge before exploding?





Eh...not Star Wars. But that one Treehouse of Horrors ep of The Simpsons does show Homer and Bart getting some serious big-head syndrome before popping offscreen.

Yeah...but the zero pressure can make your eyes pop out and stuff like that after a while.

Thanks and PLMKWYT about the subject.

Cheers (*clink*)

Dean



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(...) That should be enough to reduce the chances of whiplash, and the tears might not completely boil away before they could get back into a pressurized environment. (...) Not before they freeze, and even that will take a while (contrary to popular (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jun-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)

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(...) My understanding from all of this is that the rope is rocket-powered to get _to_ the lounge, not to go away from it. That would even help with that whole problem of the rope being able to continue "downward" through the explosive (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jun-03, to lugnet.space)

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