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Re: Roboarm from Dave Baum's super book
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lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:24:51 GMT
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In article <Fnns1C.5Mr@lugnet.com>, "Richard Earley"
<richard.earley@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Are there plans to make the part models available?


We haven't decided yet.  I'd like to make them available for other
hobbyists, but I'm not sure I want to give them away to my competitors if
I decide to write another book.  We really haven't dug into the legality
(or enforcibility) of making them available for "non-commercial" use.

Since making them public is a one-way thing, we've decided to hold off
until we decide on a follow-up book.

Dave


> -Rich
> 
> 
> In lugnet.technic, Dave Baum writes:
> > You're correct.  We used RayDream, which has an introductory version
> > priced aroun $100.  The full version is a bit more ($300-$400 I think).
> > Some details on the renderings are at:
> > 
> > http://www.apress.com/Mindstorms/render.html
> > 
> > I haven't been keeping track of the Lego CAD situation recently, but when
> > we started work (February 1999) the only tool available for Mac with an
> > existing Lego part library was POVRay, which is pretty nasty in terms of
> > constructing scenes - I wanted drag-and-drop editing not text file
> > editing.
> > 
> > I would've considered using a PC if the *ideal* solution was available,
> > but at the time I didn't find anything.  I expect the tools have evolved a
> > bit and that if I were to make the same evaluation now I might reach a
> > different conclusion.  I also have to admit I wasn't looking *too* hard
> > since I really didn't want to run out and buy a PC or two just to write
> > the book.
> > 
> > Constructing all the pieces ourselves had certain advantages - such as
> > cambering the corners of bricks/beams/plates to make seams more visible.
> > We were trying to walk the line between photo-realistic rendering and
> > illustration.  Technical illustration, such as that used in the Lego
> > instructions themselves, is definitely better for showing how to put
> > things together.  However the 3D look had a certain appeal, and we stuck
> > with it (partly as a way to differentiate our book from Lego's
> > instructions).  Next time out we'll improve some of the trouble spots.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > In article <FnLv7r.30I@lugnet.com>, "John Matthews"
> > <jmatthew@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I thought I saw somewhere that they used RayDream, an inexpensive
> > > modeling/rendering package.  The parts were custom made so that black on
> > > black beams render well.  Notice the small bevel on top of the beams.
> > > Ingenious!
> > > 
> > > Hope I'm not stepping on Dave's toes here, but I believe the above to be
> > > correct.
> > > 
> > > Build On!
> > > John Matthews
> > > 
> > > Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message
> > > news:386C55FB.FDBF4B56@voyager.net...
> > > > Dave Baum wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > (1)  I hope I don't come across too "defensive" about this.  I'm • somewhat
> > > > > of a perfectionist about certain things, and it bothered me to not have
> > > > > the tools/resources/time to make things "perfect".
> > > > 
> > > > How did you guys do your instructions? I figured you would have used
> > > > MLCad/LDLite/L3P/POVRay or some combination of those, but it didn't look
> > > > like it to me..
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com  http://my.voyager.net/lar
> > > > - - - Web Application Integration! http://www.novera.com
> > > > fund Lugnet(tm): http://www.ebates.com/ ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet.
> > > > 
> > > > NOTE: Soon to be lpieniazek@tsisoft.com :-)
> > 
> > --
> > reply to: dbaum at enteract dot com

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  Re: Roboarm from Dave Baum's super book
 
(...) You just put something to that effect on the license and if anyone violates the liscence then you just sue them. (27 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics)

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  Re: Roboarm from Dave Baum's super book
 
Are there plans to make the part models available? -Rich (...) (27 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics)

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