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Subject: 
RE: AI and even more exiciting stuff
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:28:02 GMT
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S. Crawshaw <{sc10003@eng.cam.ac}spamless{.uk}>
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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Ralph Hempel wrote:

OK, time to get out the soapbox. If you are trying to teach AI, and are
using floating point math, then you probably have really fast computers
with floating point processors that are sometimes quicker than equivalent
fixed point calcs......

I do hope that the students are getting some numerical methods banged into
their heads, otherwise how can they accurately asses the errors in their
AI algorithms?

Which brings me back to fixed point. Once you show someone the simplicity
and elegance of simple, small, fixed point numbers, they may be able to
do the complex AI algorithms on embedded machines.

If they don't learn fixed point, they may see a simple 8-bit fixed point
processor and say it can't do AI because it has no FP numbers....

Just my 2cents, any other views out there on engineering education?

Depends exactly what you're teaching in the class, and how much time you
have. Spending a session teaching fixed point math may well mean that you
have to miss out a useful AI tool. If the students already understand how
to call, say "add(a,b)" then I don't see the relevance *in an AI course*
of teaching them the difference between doing "add()" in floating and
fixed point math.

Probably in a wider computing context they _ought_ to learn about fixed
point math one day, but I would suppose it belongs in a more general
course.

Anyway, that's my 0.02 GBP.

Stuart

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Stuart Crawshaw
Control Group
Engineering Dept
Cambridge University



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  RE: AI and even more exiciting stuff
 
(...) Right you are. I guess I wasn't clear headed when I wrote my original response. I wanted to say that engineering (or CS) students shuold learn about fixed point methods at some point in their academic careers. The earlier the better. I was (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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(...) OK, time to get out the soapbox. If you are trying to teach AI, and are using floating point math, then you probably have really fast computers with floating point processors that are sometimes quicker than equivalent fixed point calcs...... I (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)

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