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Subject: 
Re: "synchro drive"
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:05:03 GMT
Original-From: 
Doug Carlson <DCARLSON@NET-ihatespamINFO.COM>
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I'm not sure I follow the problem in the design I used.
One feature which isn't spelled out on my page is that each wheel
is offset from the center of its turntable by a distance equal to the wheels
radius.
When the turntable turns (while the vertical drive shaft is static) the wheel just
runs
in circles equal to its diameter and the vehicle doesn't move at all.
If you drive both the steering and main drive systems at the same time the whole
vehicle
runs in a circle (while still 'facing' the same direction) the diameter of which
can be changed
by the the ratio of main drive speed to turning drive speed. So you can 'turn' on
a point or
any radius you might choose.
One other benefit of this offset design  is that the wheel contact point is not
'scrubbed'
as would be the case with a center mounted wheel when the turntable rotates.
I have also read of a design using a differential between two wheels per
'turntable' to
equalize the load on the wheels.
This was difficult  to build with LEGO so I stayed with the current design.
BTW - somebody thump me in the head if I'm way off here   :-).
Also, I do have a .dat file for Ledit/Ldraw  of this design. I just haven't
finnished
pollishing it up for instructions yet. Just let me know if you would like it as
is.

-- Doug


John A. Tamplin wrote:

I am working on building a platform using the idea from the "Syncho Drive"
(no flamewars about what to call it -- that is what the original poster
had so I am sticking to it).

The problem I am having is that turning one "leg" induces a turn in the
shaft used to supply power to the wheel.  I thought it would be easy to
use a differential to subtract the induced rotation from the shaft, by
gearing the differential body to the turntable.  However, I am running
into a problem trying to achieve this since the inner gearing in the
turntable is too small to get the power shaft and some other gears in,
and the outer gear is 56t.

Poor ASCII drawing to follow:

                            A
                            |
                           _|_  B
                          |   |
                          |   |
                         ------- C
                            |
                  {-------------------}
                D[=====================]
                            |
                            |
                (to wheel via crown gear)

A is the input power from the drive motor.  B is the 16t gear on the
differential, C is the 24t gear on the differential, and D is the 56t gear
on the outside of the lower part of the turntable.

I need to take one complete rotation of D and transform that into half a
rotation in the same direction on either B or C.  That will result in no
turning of A just from turning the turntable, making turning and drive
independent.

The problem is that 56=7*2*2*2, and none of the standard Lego gears have
any way to generate a 7:x ratio.  I am sure I can use another
differential to subtract two other ratios to get 7:1, but this is quickly
getting painful (not to mention the efficiency losses).

Am I missing something simple?  Does anyone have any bright ideas?
Doug's version appears to ignore the problem of turning introducing
movement, but I would like to correct that.

John A. Tamplin                                 Traveller Information Services
jat@Traveller.COM                               2104 West Ferry Way
256/705-7007 - FAX 256/705-7100                 Huntsville, AL 35801

--
Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics


Doug Carlson
dcarlson@net-info-com
carlson_doug@htc.honeywell.com
http://www.net-info.com/~dcarlson

--
Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics



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  Re: "synchro drive"
 
(...) Wish it was mine. :-) (...) I just used the 12T miter gears. 1:1 with the wheel offset equal to the wheel radius.I was just lucky that it fit the turntable so well. (...) I think the point of this platform is that it's handy to always have a (...) (26 years ago, 5-Feb-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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  "synchro drive"
 
I am working on building a platform using the idea from the "Syncho Drive" (no flamewars about what to call it -- that is what the original poster had so I am sticking to it). The problem I am having is that turning one "leg" induces a turn in the (...) (26 years ago, 5-Feb-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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