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    Re: expansion ports —Sven Horstmann
   (...) Im not much into the legal stuff, but i think you can get around patent stuff, by using the connector parts you can get from Lego Service. No, not those horribly expensive ready-to-use cables with connectors but those nice connector rails that (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: expansion ports —Michael Gasperi
    (...) stuff, (...) It is legal to modify the connectors for your own use. You get into trouble when you try to sell something that contains one. The patent means they are the only people that can sell something with the connector. You could sell a (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: expansion ports —Robert Farver
     (...) I thought a patent meant it was illegal to copy the design and manufacture it for sale. I don't see why you couldn't resell a genuine LEGO connector. Rob +---...---+ | Rob Farver - rfarver@rcn.com | | (URL) | | (URL) | +---...---+ (25 years ago, 5-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: expansion ports —Steve Bliss
      (...) I think TLG would take a dim view of people purchasing LEGO parts, possibly modifying them, using the parts in their own commercial product, and then selling the product. And if you simply build your product so that the buyer can connect with (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: expansion ports —Michael Gasperi
     (...) If they only had a patent on the connector itself that would be true, but I think they have a patent on the connector in use with a "construction set". See the claims of: (URL) connector also has the LEGO name on the top of the pins, (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: expansion ports —Peter Hesketh
   In article <F52CB7.LIw@lugnet.com>, Michael Gasperi <lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com> writes (...) Does this mean that Torys'R'Us are breaking the law by selling the Mindstorms Set? They are selling lots of things with the connector. How about second (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: expansion ports —Michael Gasperi
    (...) LEGO makes and sells the product to Torys'RUs. Torys'RUS can sell it to anybody they want and on and on. This is not what happens if you try to make a LEGO compatable product. Only LEGO has the right to manufacture and sell a product that (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: expansion ports —Jasper Janssen
   (...) Reductio ad absurdam: You buy, say, 8880. You lose one of the, say, #12 axles. You replace with 2 #6 and an axle extender. You sell it on (bad move, IMHO, but hey, it could happen :) ). By your reasoning, you now have sold a product, not made (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: expansion ports —Michael Gasperi
    Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36a90add.169456990@...et.com>... (...) Your examples are irrelevant because they probably don't still have active patents on the pieces and may or may not have ever had patents on all of them. What I was talking (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: expansion ports —Jasper Janssen
   (...) I can make the same case about something they _do_ have a patent on... say, the 12-tooth bevel gear, is pretty new. Does that come with a patent? (...) Devil's advocate. Jasper (25 years ago, 23-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
 

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