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In lugnet.publish, mattdm@mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) writes:
> Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote:
> > I personally prefer Opera over them both, to be honest. It's just not
> > full-featured yet.
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> Man, I hate their user inteface. Very clumsy, ugly, and Windows 3.0-era.
> (MDI? Ugh.)
Hmm, there must be a way to turn off MDI. (But I didn't find one.) Mike?
I do like the URL being at the bottom of the page rather than the top... :)
But egad, just in the first 5 minutes I've noticed a couple really horrible
flaws...
Like, for some reason, it doesn't do <DL></DL> -- and that's been around for
eons -- since at least as far back as 1995. This page, for example,
http://www.lugnet.com/sitemap.cgi?/&d=5
looks bad enough in Exploiter with all the extra vertical whitespace that it
forces into lists, but it's downright unintelligible in Opera. :-(
And (aghast in horror) not only does Opera do the supreme link abomination
of turning off underlines by default, but the default VLINK color is nearly
the same color as the default TEXT color (it's a super-super-dark shade of
blue...it's indistinguishable from black text against a white background).
That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Worse yet, even though you can override the idiotic default settings with a
(very nice) dialog box of conflibberjibbets, the settings don't take effect
in the Opera newsreader: it gets the color right, but still leaves out the
underline. Then it also forgets which pages you've already visited -- it
displays all the URLs in the LINK color (not the VLINK color). :-(
I do have to say, though:
* I do like Opera's bookmark interface under the "Lists" menu item -- nice
and fast, and that special little red triangle is helpful.
* I do like Opera's icons better than Navigator's or Exploiter's. (But
Netscape 3.0's were hands-down the best.)
* Opera certainly seems to handle complex tables much more effortlessly
(faster) than Navigator.
--Todd
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