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    Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Wesley Davis
   (...) Here's some constructive criticism to start with, Steve: A "sloop" is by definition a single masted ship (with one jib). Your ship is actually a brig. Another thing you may want to change is the mast heights. The mainmast should be higher than (...) (20 years ago, 15-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
   
        Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Wesley Davis
     (...) Or brigantine, technically, since the mainsail itself is gaff-rigged. Here's a page that explains: (URL) (20 years ago, 15-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
    
         Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Richie Dulin
     (...) Here's a couple of other useful pages on rigs: (2 URLs) And a *lot* on square rigs in general: (URL) Adieu Richie Dulin (URL) (20 years ago, 17-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
   
        Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Stephen Rowe
   (...) respectfully, my reference books say that the term "sloop" is very ambiguous. originally, it had meant a single masted vessel, but that definition changhed over time. the definition of a "sloop of war" is a vessel captained by an officer with (...) (20 years ago, 15-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
   
        Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Wesley Davis
   (...) Nonono, a sloop has ONE mast (At least since the 17th century; before that, it could be up to 3). Any ship with more than that cannot actually BE a sloop. "Sloop of War" is defined as a ship with cannons on one deck only. Both my own reference (...) (20 years ago, 15-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
   
        Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Richie Dulin
     (...) As a vessel description, yes, but it should be refered to as "Her Majesty's Sloop Tempest" (Or HM Sloop Tempest). Just like you'd refer to a Royal Navy Brig as "HM Brig ...". But of course, there were no reigning British Queens between 1714 (...) (20 years ago, 16-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
   
        Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Stephen Rowe
   (...) hi wes, thanks for the help with the rigging difficulty i had, i rerigged it correctly i believe. i put up some new pics. anyway, i have seen the definition of a sloop as a single masted vessel, butthere are also other definitions in all 3 of (...) (20 years ago, 17-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
   
        Re: her majesty's new sloop! HMS Tempest has arrived! —Bruce Schlickbernd
   (...) Basically, the British are to blame. They used terms in conflicting ways, and then got sloppy (or is that sloopy?) about it. It's a "sloop of war" (class of ship, rather than rigging type), but since that is kinda tedious to say it was simply (...) (20 years ago, 17-May-04, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
 

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