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Re: Lots of Bits
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You know, I was drafting a response while I was on the road this week, and John
posted a reply that has many of my response elements, so I'll piggyback where
applicable below:
In lugnet.org.us.lucny, John Rudy writes:
> In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Wayne Sardullo writes:
> > Ok people I'm slowly adding info this week. Just for an overview on what to
> > expect.
> >
> > #1 Recycling and development of LUCNY webpage. This will take some a little
> > time but hopefully will have the general stuff opened to you all. Just an FYI
> > until we figure out what to do for the future is since we lost www.lucny.org
> > I'm going to attach LUCNY to my account within College. I will not be able to
> > alias a domain name to it so for the time being it will be something like
> >
> > http://www.oswego.edu/~sardullo/lucny/lucny.html
> >
> > There isnt anything there but should be soon. I will now open up suggestions
> > for what you think is important to the Website.
> >
> > Things I will use. A brief overview and story about us. a generic list of its
> > members. The rules/Bylaws(Need to find them). Or at least rewrite them.
> > including info on how to become a member.
> >
> > Specialist Members. (this will be a page dedicated for people who have
> > expertize in a particular area of Lego)
>
> IMHO, this is priority II, just after the layout, but before a show. We
> need a professional looking site (like your homepage, Wayne), to put on
> flyers and give to both show coordinators and the public to learn more about us.
I think we should take advantage of Wayne's efforts to continue this and let
him put the webpage updates on the top of his list. The professional looking
webpage design is a great foundation for flyers, etc. Wayne, you're doing
great. The rest of the team can pull together other elements of layout, etc.
> > -----------------------
> >
> > Lucny Membership resposibilities
>
> "You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today."
> -Abraham Lincoln
...stay up late enough, and it's tomorrow already! I learned that this past
week at work in the field.
> > Since we are slowly coming up on more professional things as I said before I
> > would like to offically open up the board for the following areas. For positions
> >
> > These positions each have a unique angle to cover what so far we have seen in
> > the group.
> >
> > Obviously, we need someone as the leader. At least in a sense to keep LUCNY
> > members up to speed as well as informed on upcoming meetings or future events.
> > I have to apologize to Nate, John R, and Kevin. Although we had a GREAT time at
> > our last meeting I just didn't even bother with an agenda. For future, THIS
> > WILL BE IMPORTANT!!
> I hate to contradict you here, but, just as an agenda is good, we also need
> to schedual in those minutes we spent inspecting and trading and such.
I'd get more enjoyment out of a club that's not as structured as following such
a strict agenda. Not that we currently follow a tight structure, but I wanted
to make a somewhat stronger statement than John - this sounds too much like my
work environment, and I don't want that spilling over to this particular hobby.
If we wanted to have an officer's meeting with Robert's Rules of Order
dictating business matters, that's one thing. As a matter of fact, I'm an
officer in a local rock/gem/mineral club, and we have those types of meetings
prior to the regular club meeting. After that, we start the club meeting,
where we have a good time and geek out about rocks and fossils and stuff. That
keeps business seperate as business, and then we attend to the real reason why
we gathered in the first place.
Take a look a some of the other LTCs out there, and they enjoy success in the
same way - busniess is kept to a minimum, and distinctly seperated from 95% of
the activities of the club meeting. Remember, we only know of LTCs that have
organized herre on LUGNET - many may exist "outside the fold" and I'd like to
assume they're in it for the fun of it.
> >
> > I would like to vote on this and make it more offical. ( Anyone want the
> > position) If not, feel free to vote me in. :)
>
>
> <Boris Voice>Zoundz Good, fearlezz leader</Boris Voice>
Seriously, though - it may be a good idead to have officers at some point, but
I'm comfortable with accepting our current statuses. Wayne, you've got my
unofficial vote.
> > Levels of Membership.
> >
> > I was looking at some of the other groups and noticed that not all members
> > contribute in the same way. In a sense I feel that this might actually help us
> > out. I know we all can't get together and some have other ideas. I would like
> > to include as many people in our group as possible. Not everyone has to
> > contribute 1 million bricks, but maybe offer other things like support or other
> > resourses to the cause.
> >
> > Here's some of the ideas.
> >
> > (Within typical membership)
> > Builders (Layout and Build Designs)
> > Specialists (within their field)
>
> I'd like to propose that The preceding two positions be combined into
> "Builder with a specialty in...", that way one of us isn't always tied into
> MOCing (is that a viable verb?) in a certain genre. We can always MOC in
> our minor if need be.
> The list in my head is as follows (Anyone omitted means I have no clue what
> your specialty is):
>
> -Wayne S.: Builder with a specialty in Trains, minors in Town and supporting
> structures.
>
> -Kevin S.:Builder with a specialty in Town (both vehicles and taller
> buildings), minors in Train (though is becoming incresingly involved).
>
> -Nate: Builder with a specialty in Western and Town, minors in ?????.
>
> -John B.:Builder with a specialty in Mindstorms (sensors and autonomy),
> minors in Train and System Applied Mindstorms.
>
> -The Drumms:Builders with a specialty in Bionicle, minors in Town details
> and lettering?.
>
> -Ed M.:Builder with a specialty in Trains and Town, minors in automated
> supporting structures.
>
> -John R.:Builder with a specialty in Town (both vehicles and Short
> buildings), minors in Train, Western and Space.
You know, we can mentally assign these specialties, but don't want to be bound
by them. Let's stay away from doing that. I think more regular in person
meetings and postings to a club mailing list will establish updates on what
we're working on currently. While these specialty descriptions are currently
pretty accurate, I remember Wayne's recent posting about getting deals on a
couple Mindstorms sets and (tongue-in-cheek) thanking John B. for the exposure
to that cool stuff. If we publish such specialties on a web page, be prepared
to update it. I'm really getting into Scala at the moment...just kidding.
> > Contributors (Money, Blocks, Support, Meeting Locations...)
> > Other (not sure what else)
I'd like to contribute some bricks into a jambalaya bin. Nicole points out
that her brick supply is locked into Ken's legacy creations, and I think access
to a club supply of bricks would be beneficial for her and others. Just a
thought - I don't mean that to sound like charity, but rather a cool bin of
stuff that we could draw/borrow from as a group at meetings/shows/etc.
> >
> > Obviously we are all members but how can we each focus are talents further to
> > get us to where we wanna go...? Thats the question I ask
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The Folding table issue. I will answer this tomorrow. The one I thought we
> > agreed on was from Staples. However, when I looked via web thats not what we
> > found at John R. Place. John what site what that from???
>
> http://www.officedepot.com/shop/catalog/sku.asp?ID=369009&LEVEL=SK
> But it seems the price has gone up $12.00 !!!
I've been tracing Office Depot's pricing on this, and unfortuantely they still
have the best price, and they know it. On 5/25, they updated the price of
these tables from $24.99 to $32.99. While I don't like an apparently overnight
33% increase, it's still probably a good deal. They will probably start
offering coupons and such to promote these items, and we'll have to take
advantage of that. Drones in the stores will probably be unwise to all this,
so don't expect too much from them if you go in person. I'll wait to hear
Wayne's report. I believe Staples' similar table is $39.99, and it's a
different manufacturer.
> > (More to come.)
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > No once else made any comments about the layout opinions I posted uses 4 30x60
> > tables. PLEASE speak up and voice your opinion on this so we can start placing
> > restate.
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=17789
> >
> > From the picts the only one that fails for the trains and takes up to much
> > space is "tables-3" due to the huge arc that is applied after bridge.
>
> Actually, Nicole did comment that she liked the last option, the 'S' the best
I don't have an opinion, but Nicole's comments seem logical.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- • <snip>
> > Looking into the next meeting.... (Test layout)
> >
> > I would like to start considering a meeting time for mockup of first layout.
> > However, before we can do that we need to be sure we have:
> >
> > Tables
> > Table layout design
> I don't see this as important. I think that if we have the tables, we can
> play around and see what fits. If we plan ahead too much, I think that (no
> offense meant) we will have 1 person's design. It's so hard to talk designs
> for track w/o interaction.
OK - now I have an opinion. Table layout depends, I'd say, about 75% weighted
on the venue. "Oh man - they put us in the corner!" or "Oh man, where'd that
pillar come from?" Doing a show at Roberson, for example, depends on the
Harkness theater location versus the Visitor Center location. The real estate
changes so much, that we just have to be prepared to be flexible. We may get
some advance warning and specs from show organizers, but I wouldn't count on
it. Having several layout designs and an attitude that allows changes in them
is key.
> > Buildings
> > Tracks
> > Trains
> > (Lots of Evaluation)
> >
> > June is a tough month for me because most of the weekends I have something on a
> > Sat or Sun. I will work with the majority though when would be the best time to
> > meet.
>
> June's not good for me as well, seeing that Regents and a trip to Gettysburg
> will be taking up the bulk of my time. Mid July looks good here, I'll work
> around everyone else as well, the Garage is CLEAN!!! now. :)
Gettysburg is quite a place, you lucky dog! I'll be in Hershey later this
month to hit the RollerSoaker, so June's busy on my front as well.
> > ---------
> >
> > End of Transmission
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