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| | | (...) Luckily we have Netscape Communicator to use instead - a program with absolutely no bugs or security issues of its own. I personally prefer Opera over them both, to be honest. It's just not full-featured yet. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —John Matthews
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| | | | | When you say 'full-featured' that means full of bugs and security holes, right? :) Bring back HTML 1.0 ! John Matthews Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7srpal.8f6....UTK.EDU... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Asher Kobin
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| | | | | No offence but that is the biggest crock of you know what. Ok, you can probably figure out who I work for, but since I work directly with these security issues, you can be sure that Netscape has many. -- Asher (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Jeremy Sproat
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| | | | | | | (...) Knowing Mike (and Netscape), I think this was sarcasm. Personally, I prefer Mosaic for some things. Small, no install, no applets. I shall check out Opera soon. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —John Matthews
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| | | | | | Hey! Who let that guy in? He's obviously a MS henchman sent here to delude us from the Truth! Just kidding Asher. Have you considered working for Linux? Oops, that's right, Linux is free, nobody makes money there... 5 more years of MS, tick.. tick.. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Nobody? Tell that to all the people who made a killing with the RedHat IPO. (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | (...) Man, I hate their user inteface. Very clumsy, ugly, and Windows 3.0-era. (MDI? Ugh.) Have you looked at any of the recent Mozilla devel milestones? It's obviously still pre-alpha, but coming along really nicely. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | (...) Yeah, it is fairly retro. (...) Nah, don't have time to play much anymore. That's why I've removed everything but 95/98/NT from my machines at home and at work. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Opera Software's browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Hmm, there must be a way to turn off MDI. (But I didn't find one.) Mike? I do like the URL being at the bottom of the page rather than the top... :) But egad, just in the first 5 minutes I've noticed a couple really horrible flaws... Like, for (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | (...) Yeahwell, Netscape has acted like a clogged toilet too, some times. But at least they've always worked hard to clear it out rather than stop it up more. :) (...) Hmm, sounds interesting. www.opera.com? I'll give it a try for a few days... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, ok. That's why every single point version since 4.5 has crashed on me multiple times within the first day of use, leading ultimately do its removal from my system. (...) Yup. Fast. (...) Makes no difference to me. I just want something (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | (...) Hmm, it's kind of crippled without cookie support, isn't it. Not that I'm a fan of the way so many sites mis-use cookies, but when they're used the right way, cookies are a goshdarn excellent browser feature. --Todd [followups to .publish] (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Ed Jones
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| | | | | | | (...) Darn, saw the subject and thought I was headed toward a composing program. Visions of Verdi, Bellini, Donizetti, Wagner, Strauss and Puccini were dancing in my head. Bummer. Ed "still fighting with one hand" Jones (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | (...) I'm no Opera advocate, I just like the stuff about it that works. And enough about it works that I almost bought it. Let them fix a few more important things and I'll stop using IE for good. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Amos Bieler
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| | | | | | (...) I hope it has cookie support. Otherwise, there's somthing kinda scary aboutthis COOKIES.DAT in my user directory! Seriously, I have Opera 3.60 and it works beautifully. It has JavaScript with an amazing feature: You can have JavaScript on for (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Hey! I see a cookies.dat file in my user directory too. That's very interesting. Hmm. Darn thing's binary (boo! hiss!) but anyway, as far as I can tell, the cookies feature in Opera 3.60 is forgen borken. If you know how to make 'em work, I'd (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Amos Bieler
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| | | | | | (...) What sites are these? I'll try them with mine. (...) Mine does it just fine. How were these tags used? It passed this short test with flying black-on-grey: <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Definition List Test</TITLE></HEAD> <BODY> <DL> <DT>Spoon</DT> <DD>A (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) I can't give out the URLs because they're private LUGNET-admin pages, but one that you could test which uses the same cookie-storage code is this: (URL) guess is: If a website named www.foo.com sends a cookie labled .foo.com, that Opera (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole) —Amos Bieler
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| | | | | | (...) Could you modify your cookies so that it used www.lugnet.com instead of .lugnet.com? So that at least _one_ site is compatible with Opera ;^) I'm getting pretty sick of typing my name/address in the web interface. (...) It seems to do unclosed (...) (25 years ago, 12-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Adam Howard
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| | | | | Hi Mike, Will this have an effect on UTK's PC's? They use IE5, I believe. Adam (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Which UTK PCs? If you mean the ones in the labs they most certainly do not have IE5 on them, nor will they have it anytime real soon. I like IE5 alot, and I get pretty freakin tired of all the stupid potshots people take at it and MS without (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) I'm with ya. OK, lemme practice. Ahem. :'] ___...___begin rant___...___ Microsoft Internet Explorer is a rickety, rotten, bug-infested, malodorous cesspool of filth, coughed up like a steaming pus-infected hairball from the collective bellies (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) Sure glad I choose my family members better - and i certainly choose which of them I hand my email address to. If they're clued enough that I want to talk to them, they can damn well go to Dejanews^H^H^H^H. About the browser thingies: (...) (25 years ago, 9-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Adam Howard
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| | | | Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7srpal.8f6....UTK.EDU... (...) I have to disagree with you on this one. I've downloaded Netscape 4.6 to 3 computers 6 separate times. Each one installed ok, but on 2 everytime you (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | (...) Um, Mike was being sarcastic. (...) ^^^...^^^ Twice as fast? (...) Really? Could you take a screen-shot of my website, for example this page: (URL) the inline frame work on this page: (URL) Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) I wonder why so many people have a hard time telling I'm being sarcastic and so many others don't? I think most people get it IRL. In fact, I know they do. :) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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| | | | | | Re: MSIE5 security hole —Mike Stanley
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| | | | (...) Heh. You're not disagreeing with what I meant, just what I said. I think Communicator 4.5 on is a pile of garbage. If I ever see another stupid bug report window pop up within 30 seconds of running their stupid product I'll never bother trying (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
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