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  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Luckily we have Netscape Communicator to use instead - a program with absolutely no bugs or security issues of its own. I personally prefer Opera over them both, to be honest. It's just not full-featured yet. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
When you say 'full-featured' that means full of bugs and security holes, right? :) Bring back HTML 1.0 ! John Matthews Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7srpal.8f6....UTK.EDU... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
No offence but that is the biggest crock of you know what. Ok, you can probably figure out who I work for, but since I work directly with these security issues, you can be sure that Netscape has many. -- Asher (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Man, I hate their user inteface. Very clumsy, ugly, and Windows 3.0-era. (MDI? Ugh.) Have you looked at any of the recent Mozilla devel milestones? It's obviously still pre-alpha, but coming along really nicely. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Yeahwell, Netscape has acted like a clogged toilet too, some times. But at least they've always worked hard to clear it out rather than stop it up more. :) (...) Hmm, sounds interesting. www.opera.com? I'll give it a try for a few days... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Yeah, ok. That's why every single point version since 4.5 has crashed on me multiple times within the first day of use, leading ultimately do its removal from my system. (...) Yup. Fast. (...) Makes no difference to me. I just want something (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Yeah, it is fairly retro. (...) Nah, don't have time to play much anymore. That's why I've removed everything but 95/98/NT from my machines at home and at work. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Opera Software's browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) Hmm, there must be a way to turn off MDI. (But I didn't find one.) Mike? I do like the URL being at the bottom of the page rather than the top... :) But egad, just in the first 5 minutes I've noticed a couple really horrible flaws... Like, for (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Knowing Mike (and Netscape), I think this was sarcasm. Personally, I prefer Mosaic for some things. Small, no install, no applets. I shall check out Opera soon. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) Hmm, it's kind of crippled without cookie support, isn't it. Not that I'm a fan of the way so many sites mis-use cookies, but when they're used the right way, cookies are a goshdarn excellent browser feature. --Todd [followups to .publish] (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) Darn, saw the subject and thought I was headed toward a composing program. Visions of Verdi, Bellini, Donizetti, Wagner, Strauss and Puccini were dancing in my head. Bummer. Ed "still fighting with one hand" Jones (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) I'm no Opera advocate, I just like the stuff about it that works. And enough about it works that I almost bought it. Let them fix a few more important things and I'll stop using IE for good. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) I hope it has cookie support. Otherwise, there's somthing kinda scary aboutthis COOKIES.DAT in my user directory! Seriously, I have Opera 3.60 and it works beautifully. It has JavaScript with an amazing feature: You can have JavaScript on for (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) Hey! I see a cookies.dat file in my user directory too. That's very interesting. Hmm. Darn thing's binary (boo! hiss!) but anyway, as far as I can tell, the cookies feature in Opera 3.60 is forgen borken. If you know how to make 'em work, I'd (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
Hi Mike, Will this have an effect on UTK's PC's? They use IE5, I believe. Adam (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7srpal.8f6....UTK.EDU... (...) I have to disagree with you on this one. I've downloaded Netscape 4.6 to 3 computers 6 separate times. Each one installed ok, but on 2 everytime you (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Um, Mike was being sarcastic. (...) ^^^...^^^ Twice as fast? (...) Really? Could you take a screen-shot of my website, for example this page: (URL) the inline frame work on this page: (URL) Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
Hey! Who let that guy in? He's obviously a MS henchman sent here to delude us from the Truth! Just kidding Asher. Have you considered working for Linux? Oops, that's right, Linux is free, nobody makes money there... 5 more years of MS, tick.. tick.. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Which UTK PCs? If you mean the ones in the labs they most certainly do not have IE5 on them, nor will they have it anytime real soon. I like IE5 alot, and I get pretty freakin tired of all the stupid potshots people take at it and MS without (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Heh. You're not disagreeing with what I meant, just what I said. I think Communicator 4.5 on is a pile of garbage. If I ever see another stupid bug report window pop up within 30 seconds of running their stupid product I'll never bother trying (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Nobody? Tell that to all the people who made a killing with the RedHat IPO. (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) I wonder why so many people have a hard time telling I'm being sarcastic and so many others don't? I think most people get it IRL. In fact, I know they do. :) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) I'm with ya. OK, lemme practice. Ahem. :'] ___...___begin rant___...___ Microsoft Internet Explorer is a rickety, rotten, bug-infested, malodorous cesspool of filth, coughed up like a steaming pus-infected hairball from the collective bellies (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) What sites are these? I'll try them with mine. (...) Mine does it just fine. How were these tags used? It passed this short test with flying black-on-grey: <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Definition List Test</TITLE></HEAD> <BODY> <DL> <DT>Spoon</DT> <DD>A (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) I can't give out the URLs because they're private LUGNET-admin pages, but one that you could test which uses the same cookie-storage code is this: (URL) guess is: If a website named www.foo.com sends a cookie labled .foo.com, that Opera (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) Could you modify your cookies so that it used www.lugnet.com instead of .lugnet.com? So that at least _one_ site is compatible with Opera ;^) I'm getting pretty sick of typing my name/address in the web interface. (...) It seems to do unclosed (...) (25 years ago, 12-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Sure glad I choose my family members better - and i certainly choose which of them I hand my email address to. If they're clued enough that I want to talk to them, they can damn well go to Dejanews^H^H^H^H. About the browser thingies: (...) (25 years ago, 9-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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