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Re: Common ground in science/Bible debate
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Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:49:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
> Greetings! I've been following the debate regarding science and the Bible
> and it seems the debate has digressed so I thought I'd start a thread about
> the things I think we should agree on. Feel free to join in but please keep
> an open mind and use kind words.
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> We should agree that Christianity is one of thousands of religions practiced
> by the billions that inhabit this planet.
I would disagree with this. There are basically a handfull of major world
religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Judaism, Christianity
and Islam - and some of these are sometimes considered more philosophies
than religions). Within these major religions you will find different
"movements", for instance, in Christianity there is the Catholic Church, the
Orthodox Church and various Protestant sects, but they all agree on the
basics of the faith and are therefore all considered to be of the Christian
religion. So,
unless you count each individual on the street who claims some sort of
special revelation I would challenge the notion of "thousands of religions".
(Note: the above list of religions and Christian movements is not to be
considered exhaustive).
> There are even faiths still
> practiced today that have been around before Moses. There are other faiths,
> like those of the ancient Greeks, that are no longer practiced.
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> Each religion has it's laws, beliefs and stories. Some have written works
> while others are handed down orally. Each religion has it's own story of
> creation. The stories in the Bible are just as relevant to Christians as
> were the Greek's stories of the gods of Olympus, which we now call myths.
LOL. That last sentence seems a subtle way of saying that we should all
agree that Christianity is just a myth! I sure thats not what you meant
though. :)
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> Science reveals the FACTS of our existence while religion helps reveal the
> MEANING of our existence.
I would agree with this.
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> The theory of evolution is a conclusive scientific explanation for fossil
> and living evidence of plant and animal adaptation over time. Creation
> stories are non-scientific and involve a supernatural being(s) or force that
> willfully builds the world and the life to inhabit it.
1. Science isn't my area of expertise but, how can a theory be conclusive? I
thought a theory was a scientific explanation for something, but couldn't be
considered conclusive until proven - and until proven it is just a theory.
2. Agreed. Creation stories aren't scientific treatise. However, if a
supernatural being created the universe, then science is the means for us to
understand how the Creator's creation works.
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> I think that these are the main points we can agree on, if you have others,
> please add.
I would just add that unless Robert Bevens can add anything constructive to
the debate then people should not reply to his posts. The previous debate
seems to have degenerated into useless drivel.
> Dan
Ken
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| (...) Yes, I should modify my statement to reflect the all the sub-religions, philosophies or branches under the umbrella of a given main religion. In some religions, such as Hinduism, there can be significant differences from one village to (...) (23 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Greetings! I've been following the debate regarding science and the Bible and it seems the debate has digressed so I thought I'd start a thread about the things I think we should agree on. Feel free to join in but please keep an open mind and use (...) (23 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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