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Re: Quick Poll - Kyoto
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:14:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > I am not sure I agree. Kyoto provided a framework for the worlds biggest
> > polluters to reduce their polluting output. If you think it is not as good
> > as it could be as it focuses on 40 or so industrialised economies - but
> > ignores the developing economies - I'd agree to a certain extent.{1} Despite
> > that, I can't see how it is "bad".
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> > I suppose a good question here is how should we view “the environment”; as
> > luxury or a necessity?
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> That's the wrong question, because it begs the answer.
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> I would suggest that a different line of questioning may be more fruitful.
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> - Is the specific problem that Kyoto purports to solve really a problem?
The consensus view is that it is. I’m sure the oil companies have a few
scientists or academics who can show otherwise. But, I also hear that there
are academics how feel the whole concept evolution is bunkum. ;-)
> If
> so, how bad?
~5% increase in rainfall levels in the next 30-40 years. EU design code for
urban drainage suggest a 20-year return period storm for design purposes -
but many exceed this. Data I am working on right now suggests that a 25-year
return period storm will equal a ~17-20 year event in 2030, and a 25-yaer
return period storm in 2030 will equal a 35-40 year event today. This is for
the Edinburgh area and assumes CO2 levels will rise by 3-7%.
> If we're not sure, what level of risk can we tolerate?
> - Is the pallative suggested really a fix? If so how, if not, why not?
I have said why already - I'm still waiting for you to say why not. :-)
> - Is the Kyoto protocol the most effective way to apply the pallative?
It was the "most effective" method which could be agreed. Lazy people feel
that this will slow down their economy. I just feel that it will make us a
little more efficient.
Scott A
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> ++Lar
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