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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:54:52 GMT
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James Brown wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> > > > Just so we're on the same page here, you're asking Tom to prove that you
> > > > can't do something, which in this case is impossible for him to do because
> > > > there will always be a case of "yeah, but what if..." It is far more
> > > > reasonable for a skeptic to ask you to prove that one *can* visit God
> > > > physically, since one such visit, if experimentally repeatable, would prove
> > > > it possible.
> > >
> > > No. He's not asking Tom to prove that something can't be done. He's asking
> > > Tom to support his assertion that something can't be done. HUGE difference.
> >
> > You're quibbling. In that case, Tom might begin, for instance, by
> > asserting either that God does not exist, or that God does exist, but he
> > exists in a place physically inaccessible to us. In either case we cannot
> > physically travel to God.
> > Now, I suspect that you, or someone else, will question those two
> > hypothetical examples of ways God might be impossible to visit physically,
> > so I ask again that someone provide a demonstrable way in which we can visit
> > Him.
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> AAAAARRRGGGGGHHHHHH! (I had to get that off my chest.)
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> You're missing the point. You cannot catagorically state something as true
> OR false when there is no evidence to support or deny it.
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> Lacking evidence either way, saying "God does not exist" is entirely as
> unverifiable as saying "God does exist".
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> If you're going to accuse the christians of taking God's existance on faith,
> then at least either acknowledge that your (the generic you) denial of God's
> existence is ALSO on faith, or at least have the consitency to say "God
> might exists, but there is no evidence to support it."
I've already done that, long ago - search for it if you want ;-) I said I had
faith that God does NOT exist, and you can't convince me otherwise.
> Saying "You can't physically visit God" is another unsupportable statement,
> and people should either not be making such catagorical statements, or they
> should lay off the christians for doing it.
OK, I admit:
1 - IF God exists (I have faith he DOESN'T)
2 - someone MIGHT be able to visit him physically
3 - show me someone who has.
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| (...) FWIW, the Christian view is that God exists everywhere He wants to since he is not contained in a physical body such as we are, thus to state to "visit" Him, doesn't understand the situation. He did, once, take on the form of man when Jesus (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) AAAAARRRGGGGGHHHHHH! (I had to get that off my chest.) You're missing the point. You cannot catagorically state something as true OR false when there is no evidence to support or deny it. Lacking evidence either way, saying "God does not (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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