 | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | (...) Is your heaven like a roller coaster, so dangerous then that it needs rules to keep people out, because it's "unsafe" for them, who would qualify for the other brands of rides (merry go round, ferris wheel, and other rides)/heavens??? I'm a (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Bill Farkas
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| | | | | (...) I can hear Britney singing, "Ooops, I did it again...", right now. LAR!! You fell for trap #3. You're making this too easy. I'm waiting for trap #2 also. Will he see it? Will he side-step it? Ignore it? Fall right in like he has twice already? (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) something that bears repeating... (...) ++Lar (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | (...) So you gave irrelevant illustrations and get responses about how irrelevant was. I just can't see any genius trap in it. You obviously seem to see so, but again, I still can't figure out what do you want the achieve with this plan of yours, (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | [Much snippage] (...) I can see where he's going with it. It's an old chestnut, basically that only the brave and committed--those above 'so tall' (or is it a statement on predestination--only those predisposed to being this tall? Bill, have you (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Bill Farkas
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| | | | | | | (...) No - I'm not a Calvinist, not Arminian either. I don't accept all of either of their writings. Calvin claimed to be infallable! Couldn't take him seriously after that. Arminius I liked a little more, but don't agree with most of what he says - (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Bill Farkas
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| | | | | | | (...) I want to answer this a little better now that I have more time: As to Calvinism - I don't buy into the whole hyper-Calvinistic TULIP thing, but I do believe in predestination in the way that Selcuk described it earlier (in reference to (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Bill Farkas
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| | | | | | (...) Zoinks! I forget this part in my second reply - I'm still heavily medicated! The analogy was only intended to be about Larry as a child (--Lar) on a roller coaster, which actually means it's not really an analogy, I suppose. I was only (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —John Neal
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| | | | | | Bill Farkas wrote: Speaking of Calvin...;-) -John <snip> (...) <snip> (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less? —Bill Farkas
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| | | | (...) Who said anything about heaven? That was part of the trap...you assuming too much. The other part of the trap is your incessant ability to nitpick about minor things and miss the entire, OBVIOUS point. This was not about theology, it was about (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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