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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:46:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes:
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> > I can just see you as a child at the local amusement park: walking up to the
> > roller coaster where the clown stands with his hand out saying if you're not
> > this tall you can't ride the roller coaster.
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> Is your heaven like a roller coaster, so dangerous then that it needs rules
> to keep people out, because it's "unsafe" for them, who would qualify for
> the other brands of rides (merry go round, ferris wheel, and other
> rides)/heavens???
Who said anything about heaven?
That was part of the trap...you assuming too much. The other part of the
trap is your incessant ability to nitpick about minor things and miss the
entire, OBVIOUS point. This was not about theology, it was about how you
divert attention away from yourself and try to find fault with or blame God.
Now you're gonna say, "See, you said God. It IS about theology." No, it's
about illustrating how you act in precisely the same manner as those
irrational, idiotic Christians you so despise. Let me just say at this point
that you're right, it is impossible to debate with most Christians - it's
even more difficult debating between two or more Christians about
Christianity!!!! Such as the Calvinism stuff I addressed to LFB. So, I share
your frustration there.
Anyway, one thing that religious types tend to do is to focus on some minor
point to discredit an entire argument. As if removing a few pebbles from the
base of a hill makes a plain. You did the same. Why is that? If I had done
that you would have dropped some name of some theory or model and mocked how
I fell into "that ol' trick".
And then, look at your objections: who said roller coasters are dangerous or
unsafe? Roller coasters are fun, that's why it's an amusement park. Why did
you immediately assume the worst first? And any of those other rides would
have fit the bill, because the ride or the clown wasn't the point. I'm
surprised you didn't equate the clown with God - I was expecting that.
Sounds like someone too inflexible to listen to anything but himself -
another popular criticism of Christians.
Also, let me say that the criticisms I mention here and elsewhere are not
necessarily unwarranted. I've said many times that I have bigger problems
with Christendom than you guys do. I teach in Christian circles and am
totally amazed at what I see sometimes. I don't blame anyone hear, or
anywhere else, for being offended by what religious morons do. But I'm not
one of 'em - most of the time, anyway.
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> I'm a big fan of roller coasters, but that doesn't sound like much of an
> attraction to me.
Again, misses the point.
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> Or is your analogy just inappropriate?
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> You're babbling, Bill, and not just in this post. Quit while you're ahead,
> if you even are.
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> ++Lar
I haven't babbled once. You just didn't get it.
But I accept your concession. You're not gonna pull an Algore, are you?
Bill :D
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